Mercedes CLA sedan: 0.23 drag coefficient (0.22 for BlueEfficiency model)
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Amazing! I guess that explains how the base CLA can crack 130 mph with just 122 hp and 150 with the two liter.
This is one Merc I can't wait to test-drive. After the horribly plasticky B-Class, it's nice that Mercedes is trying to find ways to go mass market (read: FWD) without losing its premium appeal. |
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Yup: detail optimization can make up for a lot. Tells us how bad the "details" must be on most cars, doesn't it?
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The brochure is fascinating reading.
http://www.mercedes-benz.fi/content/...7_0113_021.pdf |
Wow - .22 for the high efficiency model, coming later. Editing the post title. :)
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Funny, I have been noticing the Merc sedans lately.
Noticing how low the front edge is to the ground and how low the front hood is to the ground. also how 'tight' the tires and wheels are to the edges of the wheel well. Usually a sedan's bumber will clear a curb. Butthe newer merc arent high enough. As Metro said....'opitmizing the details"! |
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Just as a reminder, Merc was the first to do 0.24 in a production car, just a few years ago:
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...html#post88383 And they seem to be getting closer to their goal: Mercedes to Sell Super-Aerodynamic Cars in 5 Years |
"...hugging the ground..." has always been good for reducing aerodrag.
...and, matching tyre diameter to wheelwell circumference gives errant 'air' almost no place to create air turbulence (drag). |
I'm surprised it has a .23 Cd. That is fantastic! Sigh, my truck is more than 2x that...
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That's incredible. I was just thinking earlier today how there needs to be more education to the general public regarding vehicle aerodynamics. I hope Mercedes starts a trend of low drag vehicles.
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and yet the wheels... don't look very aero at all.
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Back in 1984 the poverty spec W124 (skinny tires, smooth hub caps) pulled a 0.29cd. I would like to bring mine down to that level or maybe improve on it a bit.
http://eblog.mercedes-benz-passion.c...132_84F156.jpg |
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Likely that. And as Old Tele Man says, the fender-to-wheel gap plays an important part, too.
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Have they released their fuel consumption figures out yet?
I found that Co2 is 118 g/km which gives 4,45 l/100km average fuel consumption. Mercedes-Benz CLA 180 BlueEFFICIENCY, 2013 C 117 technical specifications & information 304480 |
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That said, in any of the pictures I don't see the evidence that such covers are in use: clips/fasteners in either the spokes, the rims, or hub. |
Also it's a safe bet the photo doesn't necessarily show the lowest-drag variant.
Thus the disclaimer in nearly every car ad: "model may not be exactly as shown". |
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http://photo.netcarshow.com/Mercedes...4_photo_9b.jpg
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Mercedes...4_photo_a0.jpg http://photo.netcarshow.com/Mercedes...4_photo_9f.jpg http://photo.netcarshow.com/Mercedes...4_photo_a1.jpg http://photo.netcarshow.com/Mercedes...4_photo_54.jpg ( Image above is a CG rendering, but might be close to reality ) Some good images here - plenty from inside an actual wind tunnel : http://www.google.com/search?q=Merce...w=1436&bih=786 http://www.autoconception.com/wp-con...ineering-9.jpg |
A few weeks ago I went to go take a leak at a highway rest station and during the relieving part a corner of my eye caught a parked semi-truck full of CLA`s.
I love the beauty of this thing, they truly shoved a finger up the behind of all those whiny designers who said you must make compromises between efficiency and aesthetics. It`s a work of art. I hope those soccer moms drop those SUVs and go for this beauty. |
Using the latest overlay on the Benz.
Industrial Design - Transportation Photos by kach22i | Photobucket http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...psc99962a2.jpg Using a green felt tip pen to redesign it for maximum effect. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...pse7107793.jpg |
Very nice sketch - I'd tweak the rear wheels back a bit and narrow the rear track, so the side taper can start a little bit closer to the front.
Do you have SketchUp George? [/Nudge, nudge, wink, wink - say no moah!] |
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A friend has offered to walk me though it, but I just have not made the time for it. I click enough keys for AutoCad 2D drawings and just surfing the Internet, drawing by hand is my relaxation. |
Newly posted Video: CLA Aerodynamics
Fiddling around on a sleepless night, I found these videos. A couple stills from the first video were posted earlier in this thread, but the video itself seems to have only just appeared on Youtube. Watching the smoke test of several details that make the low Cd possible is interesting: wheel-well curtains, spoiler, tail light fixtures, a-pillar, rear view mirrors, and others:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNXgYSbEaKg And here is the "preparation" vid, which is kinda fun. It shows the procedure for putting the car in place and securing it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=LqeljvJ6j-k Impressive facility. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a bit of a sought-after privilege to work in it. |
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do you also believe that the oil companies squashed a carb that got 99mpg??????? :rolleyes: Here is something to think about. Some other german car maker w/ a big windtunnel (bmw maybe) has some engineer come in and say "mb is blowing smoke on the .23 cd......let's go buy one, run the test and then expose them!!" :thumbup: 2 days later MB is retracting and firing. Loses MASSIVE credibility in the marketplace......... just sayin......:cool: |
I cant believe we still build cars with outside mirrors.
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The proof of the aerodynamics will be in the speed. When they first released the projected performance numbers, I was impressed at the quoted top speed given the quoted power. If it really can hit those numbers, then the aerodynamics claims are more believable.
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Insight is sandbagging!!!! lol
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As I had commented early, I am just 'visually' impressed with the obvious stuff that MB seems to be doing on the aero side.
I know you smart guys see alot more stuff due to your training. :thumbup: |
The thing I marvel at and wonder ...Huh?...is the very front. Looks like a bull dozer blade, I'm surprised that's an optimal shape. Something to be learned here fer sure.
http://i43.tinypic.com/2qdznyb.jpg I also note how there is just one long arc from the base of the front windscreen to the base of the rear window, and only then does it break just slightly for the trunk, something tells me this shape has been refined to the Nth degree. |
couple of non-engineer thoughts:
the lip to ground is very low. That thing wont clear a curb much less a parking stop. Also the angle up the hood starts out pretty dang low compared to any other similar sized car in the market |
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These are the aero wheels. Note how that the wheel is actually flat with a small section cut out for cooling. The 'spokes' are simply the area of the wheel that is not painted black. Stealth aero.:thumbup: |
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