Metrosexual Yaris vs. Civic HX comparo/debate
 

"The M1330 is a metrosexual toy, kinda like the Yaris..."

what?! you must be joking right? you drive a civic (small Japanese 4cyl) not really any different from the Yaris except bigger and costs more and generally less mileage.

Um...

I just checked your 'facts' since YOU obviously didn't! :cool:

My 2-door compared to your 2-door...

http://www.lenon.com/images/BDC-CIVICvsYARIS.png

Hint: When you make declarative statements, be prepared to back them up... ;)

BlackDeuceCoupe and digitaldissent -

But wait, there's more! You can't compare MPG between 1998 and 2007 without taking the new EPA MPG tests into account :

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8...comparesj5.jpg

I compared "automatic to automatic" transmission in the above picture. I didn't pick the Civic HX because that's a "special" drivetrain.

This is where I went :

2008 Fuel Economy Tests

Curb weights are almost equal :

They're about dead even. This makes sense to me because of the heavier cars we have these days.

CarloSW2

Heh!

But wait, a drive a CiViC HX... :D

Look, I don't dislike the Yaris! It's a sub!

However, that's where the similarity ends... that and the mileage!

My HX has 160+ HP - a 8200 RPM cutoff - and gets 40+ MPG.

His Yaris has 106 HP downhill with a tailwind - and it gets 41+ MPG.

It's a whole different driving experience - believe me! ;)

Here's a typical B16A2 (nothing special) just like mine and everyone elses'...

0-95 MPH (153 km/h)

Video

There are dozens of videos on YouTube like this!

Here's a Yaris...

0-87 MPH (140 km/h)

Video

Notice any difference, or is it just me? :turtle:

Ya thats a 1.3L yaris not the American 1.5L

Show n' tell...

I can't find any American Yaris vids! :)

To be particular you've cheated us 41horsepower. Hardly fair to compare the two then is it????

You won't be able to precisely match, America is the only country to receive that engine in the 3dr hatch. Every where else got it in the 5door. Not to mention you had an aerodynamic advantage, what with the two doors sans the liftback, we create more vacuum behind us thus having to fight the drag. An inherent flaw, but i believe we are making do quiet well.

That's cool...

Realistically, though, do you think a 1.5L Yaris is a match for a B16 CiViC?

Be honest... ;)

Not you have distinct advantages performance wise, such as the aerodynamics and besides how many stock B16 have you seen? Plus it is and SI engine tuned for performance the 1nz-fe is not tuned as such; it is for FE. Plus we don't have wasteful V-Tech that attempts to kill you at 5k rpms; we tactfully control the valves accordingly to every situation and can instantly change their dynamics by simply mashing the gas and the VVT-I accommodates. From my basic understanding of v-tech and vvt-i.

apples to oranges. If i was starting from scratch and didnt already own 5 cars heh...i could buy a shell and swap to my hearts desire. im doing that right now in my 800 dollar still running like a top aspire. its going to have 120hp in a sub 2000 pound body. i can also swap in a jdm 1.5 mazda engine that is variable controlled very close in principle as the toyotas but its hard to get a hold of the full harness and ecus over here. i was trying to do this on a budget and people give away escort gt engines all day long.

anyway some people are in the market for a brand new car with warranty and ipod plug and play toys. my girlfriend wants one because its 'cute and i can hellokitty the hell out of it.' most people on here are not scared to take things apart and tinker but you still must consider the ones who may be sharing a car with a wife/gf and the new set of wheels cannot have ANY downtime at all. some others may be trading in perfectly fine civic coupes and hatches to get a warranty and peace of mind. THe yaris owners definately should have some friendly competition going to see how well that can do with all techniques applied.

OMG!!!

digitaldissent split this discussion off to its own thread... good one! :D

Anyway, I *think* we're in basic agreement... there IS a difference after all, DDStar! ;)

No I asked Darin to split it, since the original thread's issue was resolved. Agreed you can't compare bananas to strawberries unless you plan to make a smoothie.

LoL!

Was it resolved?

You wanted someone to say you weren't an ass, if I recall...

Did you get hooked up?!?!?

You know, you might get lucky if you changed your ride...

Lowered HXs are babe magnets! :cool:

*shrug* if I was going for ONLY FE I probably would have looked more closely at a Yaris but I wanted something quick, and BDC you can trash on the 8th SOHC all you want but it's not too shabby. Besides I couldn't bring myself to drive a car named "yaris" *shudders*

8Gens are okay - better than okay, actually!

7Gens were the 'red-headed stepchild' of the CiViC line...

I'd buy a Yaris before I wasted my money on a 7Gen CiViC!!! :(

Er... on second thought, forget I said that!