Metrosexual Yaris vs. Civic HX comparo/debate

[digitaldissent]

"The M1330 is a metrosexual toy, kinda like the Yaris..."

what?! you must be joking right? you drive a civic (small Japanese 4cyl) not really any different from the Yaris except bigger and costs more and generally less mileage.

[BlackDeuceCoupe]

Originally Posted by digitaldissent

you drive a civic (small Japanese 4cyl) not really any different from the Yaris except bigger and costs more and generally less mileage.

Um...

I just checked your 'facts' since YOU obviously didn't!

My 2-door compared to your 2-door...



Hint: When you make declarative statements, be prepared to back them up...

[cfg83]

BlackDeuceCoupe and digitaldissent -

But wait, there's more! You can't compare MPG between 1998 and 2007 without taking the new EPA MPG tests into account :



I compared "automatic to automatic" transmission in the above picture. I didn't pick the Civic HX because that's a "special" drivetrain.

This is where I went :

2008 Fuel Economy Tests

Curb weights are almost equal :

1996-2000 Honda Civic Full Review - Consumer Guide Automotive
1998 Honda Civic Curb Weight = 2262 lbs.

Toyota Yaris Road Test
2007 Toyota Yaris 2 Door Liftback Curb Weight = 2293 lbs.

They're about dead even. This makes sense to me because of the heavier cars we have these days.

CarloSW2

[BlackDeuceCoupe]

Originally Posted by cfg83

BlackDeuceCoupe and digitaldissent -

But wait, there's more! You can't compare MPG between 1998 and 2007 without taking the new EPA MPG tests into account...

I compared "automatic to automatic" transmission in the above picture. I didn't pick the Civic HX because that's a "special" drivetrain...

Curb weights are almost equal ...

They're about dead even...

Heh!

But wait, a drive a CiViC HX...

Look, I don't dislike the Yaris! It's a sub!

However, that's where the similarity ends... that and the mileage!

My HX has 160+ HP - a 8200 RPM cutoff - and gets 40+ MPG.

His Yaris has 106 HP downhill with a tailwind - and it gets 41+ MPG.

It's a whole different driving experience - believe me!

Here's a typical B16A2 (nothing special) just like mine and everyone elses'...

0-95 MPH (153 km/h)

Video

There are dozens of videos on YouTube like this!

Here's a Yaris...

0-87 MPH (140 km/h)

Video

Notice any difference, or is it just me?

[Yaristock]

Ya thats a 1.3L yaris not the American 1.5L

[BlackDeuceCoupe]

Originally Posted by Yaristock

Ya thats a 1.3L yaris not the American 1.5L

Show n' tell...

I can't find any American Yaris vids!

[Yaristock]

To be particular you've cheated us 41horsepower. Hardly fair to compare the two then is it????

[Yaristock]

You won't be able to precisely match, America is the only country to receive that engine in the 3dr hatch. Every where else got it in the 5door. Not to mention you had an aerodynamic advantage, what with the two doors sans the liftback, we create more vacuum behind us thus having to fight the drag. An inherent flaw, but i believe we are making do quiet well.

[BlackDeuceCoupe]

Originally Posted by Yaristock

You won't be able to precisely match, America is the only country to receive that engine in the 3dr hatch...

That's cool...

Realistically, though, do you think a 1.5L Yaris is a match for a B16 CiViC?

Be honest...

[Yaristock]

Not you have distinct advantages performance wise, such as the aerodynamics and besides how many stock B16 have you seen? Plus it is and SI engine tuned for performance the 1nz-fe is not tuned as such; it is for FE. Plus we don't have wasteful V-Tech that attempts to kill you at 5k rpms; we tactfully control the valves accordingly to every situation and can instantly change their dynamics by simply mashing the gas and the VVT-I accommodates. From my basic understanding of v-tech and vvt-i.