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oil pan 4 10-26-2019 06:24 PM

Mexico drug cartel insurgents beating Mexican army in gun battel
 
It's published by Time so it's probably not fake news.
The left doesn't seem to want to cover it because they don't want to stop the flow of drugs, slaves, votes and money coming across the boarder.
https://time.com/5705358/sinaloa-car...xico-culiacan/

Incase, no make that when the article mysteriously goes 404.

From time:

In Mexico’s big cities, drug cartel gunmen normally act like phantoms. They hide in safe houses or amid communities, suddenly striking with an assassination or a gunfight, and then disappearing again. Residents know they are there and are scared, but most the time, they can’t see them.

But on Thursday in the Sinaloan city of Culiacan, the cartel gunmen were everywhere. They openly drove in trucks with mounted machine guns, blockaded streets flashing their Kalashnikovs and burned trucks unleashing plumes of smoke like it was a scene in Syria. They took control of the strategic points in the metro area, shut down the airport, roads, and government buildings and exchanged fire with security forces for hours, leaving at least eight people dead. In contrast, everyone else had to act like ghosts, hiding behind locked doors, not daring to step outside.

And in this unusual battle, the Sinaloa Cartel won. Their uprising was in response to soldiers storming a house on Thursday and arresting Ovidio Guzman, the 28-year old son of convicted kingpin Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman. In February, the U.S. Justice Department announced it had indicted Ovidio Guzman on trafficking cocaine, marijuana and meth. But after hours of cartel chaos, Mexico’s federal government gave soldiers the go ahead to release him. It capitulated.

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[Burnt vehicles used by gunmen smolder on an intersection, one day after street battles with security forces, in Culiacan on Oct. 18.]

I’ve covered Mexico’s drug violence for 18 years, written two books about the subject, and seen many extraordinary episodes. In Sinaloa, the cradle of drug traffickers, I’ve repeatedly been on the crime beat chasing bullet-ridden corpses and into the mountains to Guzman’s opium-growing village. But Thursday was different. It wasn’t gangster action; it was a mass insurrection.

“There was panic, terror, the city was under siege,” says Vladimir Ramirez, a political scientist in Culiacan, who like many has continued curfew into Friday. “People slept wherever they were at. Businesses are closed, nobody wants to go out.”

This change has not come overnight. It is the result of a bloody trend of cartelsdeveloping insurgent tactics over many years. The use of burning vehicles to block roads was taken from militant protesters; cartels use it to stop the movement of troops and put pressure on the government. The cartels have armed up with stolen military weapons and an endless stream of rifles from the United States. Cartels from the Texas border to Guadalajara have learned to protect their leaders with rings of gunmen who can cause trouble to stop their capture.

Yet it was still shocking on Thursday to see how fast the cartel moved and how brazenly the gunmen stayed on the streets. Residents took dozens of photos of the armed thugs that circulated on social media, amplifying the threat. And it was almost a side note that there was a simultaneous prison break in which 51 inmates fled.

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[Cartel gunman just hanging out in the streets, October 17]

“The Sinaloa Cartel demonstrated a tremendous ability to mobilize rapidly and take effective control of the city,” says Raul Benitez, an expert on Latin America’s armed conflicts. “They showed that in Sinaloa, they are the ones who run things".

In Mexico’s big cities, drug cartel gunmen normally act like phantoms. They hide in safe houses or amid communities, suddenly striking with an assassination or a gunfight, and then disappearing again. Residents know they are there and are scared, but most the time, they can’t see them.

But on Thursday in the Sinaloan city of Culiacan, the cartel gunmen were everywhere. They openly drove in trucks with mounted machine guns, blockaded streets flashing their Kalashnikovs and burned trucks unleashing plumes of smoke like it was a scene in Syria. They took control of the strategic points in the metro area, shut down the airport, roads, and government buildings and exchanged fire with security forces for hours, leaving at least eight people dead. In contrast, everyone else had to act like ghosts, hiding behind locked doors, not daring to step outside.

And in this unusual battle, the Sinaloa Cartel won. Their uprising was in response to soldiers storming a house on Thursday and arresting Ovidio Guzman, the 28-year old son of convicted kingpin Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman. In February, the U.S. Justice Department announced it had indicted Ovidio Guzman on trafficking cocaine, marijuana and meth. But after hours of cartel chaos, Mexico’s federal government gave soldiers the go ahead to release him. It

freebeard 10-26-2019 08:37 PM

The last two paragraphs repeat. Was that in the original?

This is a few days old. No mention that the cartel was better armed than the police, with crew-served weapons.

Scott Adams response was that since the cartels act in concert with China to kill 50,000 Americans a year via smuggled Fentayl, we would be justified in achieving peace through superior firepower.

Mexico, like the Kurds, would thank us.

Fat Charlie 10-27-2019 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by oil pan 4 (Post 610390)
They took control of the strategic points in the metro area, shut down the airport, roads, and government buildings and exchanged fire with security forces for hours, leaving at least eight people dead.

Total smoke show. I'm going to randomly guess that 8 people dead is at the high end of average for a day there. 8 dead from hours of fighting look like accidents.

Quote:

Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 610396)
Scott Adams response was that since the cartels act in concert with China to kill 50,000 Americans a year via smuggled Fentayl...

Yeah, those Chinese, cheerfully serving markets like they do.

Frank Lee 10-27-2019 09:57 AM

If Scott Adams was smart he'd form a freekin' megachurch. :rolleyes:

Xist 10-27-2019 12:54 PM

I am unsure how many atheists start religions.

Crew served weapons versus semi-automatics.

Providing inaccurate suppressive fire versus being unable to aim because you are being suppressed, but if you send enough rounds in the same general direction, you should eventually hit your target, even if there is an inconvenient building or civilian vehicle in the way.

I hate to say it, but these are convicted and hardened criminals:

My enemy continues to be an enemy until he is dead.

It is possible that the cartel would have reacted even worse had the Chapos been killed, but there would be two fewer Chapos.

freebeard 10-27-2019 02:12 PM

Quote:

I am unsure how many atheists start religions.
I was going to say L. Ron Hubbard but he was into some freaky sch-tuff with Jack Parsons and the Woman In Red.

I was thinking about the news this morning, and between Our Presidents speech and Gywnne Shotwell's (COO SpaceX), I can imagine a Starship suborbital mission instead of the eight helicopters. They could do a touch-and-go on the target and then set down next to the smoking crater.

The seats will be 'less than business class but more than economy' for anywhere on the planet in under an hour. And then home again.

redneck 10-27-2019 02:24 PM

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Hmmm...

https://theaviationist.com/2019/10/2...-than-2-years/



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freebeard 10-27-2019 03:39 PM

I haven't watched this yet, it could be as big a deal as GPS: Elon Musk’s Starlink begins tests with US Air Force on sending broadband to planes - News 247

edit:
Don't even mute the piano and go 2x; just pause it and turn on the transcript. It's closed captioned and that is readable much more easily. :thumbup:

TLDR: Global Lightning

freebeard 11-05-2019 11:36 AM

Timcast: Donald Trump Calls For WAR On Mexican Cartels, Requests Permission From Mexican Government

All Darc 11-05-2019 02:29 PM

If you use drugs you are kelping killing people, you son of a b...tch !!!


Mexico remambers Brazil, but even more violent...


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