More data on smooth wheel covers effectiveness
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A couple key findings on smooth wheel covers of interest to this forum, from:
Sofie Koitrand, Adrian Gaylard, and Gianluca Orso Fiet, "An Investigation of Wheel Aerodynamic Effects for a Saloon Car" - Conference Paper - September 2015 Conference: Progress in Vehicle Aerodynamics and Thermal Management: Proceedings of the 10th FKFS-Conference, At Stuttgart, Germany The PDF is currently available online for free. Thanks to the authors and their professional org for that. I will share just a small portion of their findings, but there is more. Go get their paper and read it if you want more. In another thread, a few forum members have been discussing the effectiveness of several aeromods for wheels. This study uses a wind tunnel (with 5 belts) and CFD to study these different wheel designs: https://ecomodder.com/forum/attachme...1&d=1587618780 The conclusion was that the fully blanked, smooth cover wheel saw the greatest reduction in drag: https://ecomodder.com/forum/attachme...1&d=1587618819 That graph presents a combination of the wind tunnel & CFD data. In the wind tunnel alone, the fully blanked wheel saw a delta of -0.013 Cd, the 85mm annular blanked wheel -0.009, and the 430mm center-blanked ("Tesla" style) wheel saw a -0.003 Cd delta. Their conclusion is that in this test fully smooth covered or blanked wheels produced the greatest Cd benefit over baseline, whether measured in a wind tunnel or using CFD. This is a different conclusion than some other recent studies. |
Good find. Note that the graph you have shown simply displays the difference in CFD prediction vs wind tunnel results (ie the error) - not the actual changes in drag.
Versus the standard rim (wind tunnel results):
So the Jaguar results are different to the Tesla results (where fully covered wheels increased drag), which in turn are different to the SAE 2011-01-0165 results (where ventilated front and fully covered rear wheels gave the best result). As I wrote in the other thread: To make it clear, based on the research I have cited in the book, I am not saying that fully covered wheels are bad. What I am saying is that fully-covered wheels aren't always best. I am guessing it's highly dependent on the car to which the wheels are fitted. |
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On a car, at 65mph that could be up to a 1hp reduction in power requirement to maintain speed.
Not bad. |
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At autobahn speed you are definitely saving at least 1hp.
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Of course, absent from this discussion is the need for brake cooling, which from a manufacturer's perspective is probably at least as important as aerodynamic efficiency. (And I think it is pretty important too!)
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Citation needed?
www.researchgate.net: An Investigation of Wheel Aerodynamic Effects for a Saloon Car I remember the name Adrian Gaylard from discussions a few years back. Quote:
https://ecomodder.com/forum/member-f...31-1-26-08.png I did a search and surfaced a few other interesting articles at ReasearchGate: www.researchgate.net/publication: Automotive Aerodynamics Special Issue Surface contamination of cars: a review https://www.researchgate.net: The importance of unsteady aerodynamics to road vehicle dynamics There are links to other articles at the bottom of some of those. Examples: Quote:
www.researchgate.net: The Effect of Base Bleed and Rear Cavities on the Drag of an SUV I wonder whether they really went away and are back, or what? |
Yes, Adrian is a lovely guy.
He gave extraordinarily detailed feedback on each of the book chapters I sent him. Through him, I also got the Jaguar XE for a week to aero test, and then I was able to compare the on-the-road test results with his 'official' Jaguar CFD - and have him comment on the differences! Really down-to-earth and quite frank in his feedback. |
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Typical wheel found on US cars trucks and SUVs through the 1990s. Now resides on my trailer.
https://ecomodder.com/forum/attachme...1&d=1587758444 Auto makers put vents on wheels because they look cool and make the wheel lighter, they don't really start to make any functional difference until you are on a race track. |
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In a current context, a recent Porsche paper I was reading on the development of an aerodynamically slippery wheel spends over half that section on the difficulties of developing an aero wheel that doesn't too adversely impact brake cooling. In fact, you can see exactly how much extra drag they accepted in order to achieve adequate brake cooling. I think every reference (text or paper) that I read when writing the section in my book on wheel drag mentions the importance of brake cooling. |
Alternatively, just make brakes that can take the heat:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/X3zxgSTGN_k/hqdefault.jpg youtu.be: Crazy Red Hot Brakes Compilation! *HOT* |
Don't drive like that and you won't need major brake cooling.
Those brake rotors probably aren't steel or cast iron. |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5ZdyG1HHKU
I actually did this video a few weeks ago but only just released now. |
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I saw a set of pads that said "now without asbestos". that my grandpa had in the garage that was sitting there for ages.. |
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https://www.teslarati.com/wp-content...3-Red-side.jpg The 2016+ Civic: https://www.autoguide.com/blog/wp-co...ivic-Wheel.jpg Hyundai Ioniq (the base Blue trim has even smaller openings than these!): https://car-data.com/clients/car-data/Ioniqrear3.jpg Hyundai Sonata Hybrid (until 2020, the new one has more openings): https://static.cargurus.com/images/s...0-640x480.jpeg Honda Accord Hybrid: https://images.caricos.com/h/honda/2..._2560x1440.jpg ...and many others. |
Great pictures. Thx. Noteworthy, too, that these designs are beyond what Porshe deemed safe for brake cooling. It's almost as if maybe Hyundai does not expect its cars to get driven like a Porshe. ;)
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With my leaf normally I can stop, get out and put my finger on the brake rotor with out it being uncomfortably hot.
If you have some brake regen, and can keep it under 140mph no need for massive brake cooling. |
Horses for courses, of course. When in my Gen 1 Insight I brake from 125 mph to 60 mph at the end of a local straight, I don't want brake fade.
As I have said, I've never read any formal reference that doesn't mention the importance of brake cooling when developing aero wheels for road cars. They all mention it! |
OP- Thank you for posting this. I especially liked the color representations in the full paper. There is one thing I would like to point out. In post #1 the graph you posted is from the averaged wind tunnel vs CFD results. I was shocked by the amount that front lift went up in the graph. As I read the whole article I found there was a discrepancy between wind tunnel and CFD results. The wind tunnel did not show such drastic increase in lift with the fully blanked wheel. I copied the following from the conclusions.
"Overall, CFD predicts the trends from the wind tunnel results well; however, in the case with the fully blanked wheels there is a noticeable over-shoot in the drag decrease and the front lift increase. CFD also fails to capture the drag trend for the smallest centre blanking (350mm), though it predicts the rear lift trend well. Based on these two cases, it is thought that CFD over-predicts the effects of the interactions between the onset flow and the flow through the front wheels." The CFD was done without modeling turning wheels. Great article. Thanks. |
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Worse-case scenarios would be factored into design, in order to prevent brake fade,especially descending extended mountain grades while pulling at gross vehicle weight load.Engineers must anticipate motorists operating right at the edge of the envelope.Fatalities are bad for marketing. |
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In the 1970s,heading eastbound into Chattanooga,Tennessee,one might notice the 'orange landscaping' at the bottom of mountain valleys,from all the ROADWAY tractor-trailer rigs who's brakes burned up,while failing to find a runaway truck ramp in time to save itself.:( |
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Hyundai's track version of the Veloster may have high-porosity wheels,with enhanced load-shedding capacity.Same for Honda's Type-R.A few others. |
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