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RH77 02-15-2008 08:55 PM

News: New Hampshire May Raise Speed Limit to 70 & ticket slowpokes
 
Northeastern states have steadfastly held at the 65 MPH limit.

Now, New Hampshire wants to raise the limit to...


According to the theNewspaper.com,

Quote:

The New Hampshire state House Transportation Committee on Tuesday [15-Jan-2008] heard testimony on legislation that would make New Hampshire the first northeastern state to increase its maximum speed limit to 70 MPH since the federal government ordered the state to drop its speed limits from 70 MPH to 55 MPH in 1974.
Isn't this backwards-incompatibility? The article goes on to mention that slow-drivers in the fast lane could be targeted for ticketing.

SVOboy 02-15-2008 09:04 PM

I will call my representatives!

RH77 02-15-2008 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SVOboy (Post 9940)
I will call my representatives!

That's the spirit!

cfg83 02-15-2008 10:26 PM

RH77 -

Maybe they need to have these sent to them :

http://www.ameshistoricalsociety.org...n_envelope.jpg
http://www.ameshistoricalsociety.org.../rationing.htm

CarloSW2

RH77 02-15-2008 10:51 PM

Well, we are at War. So, let's ration!

My Grandparents had a lot of these old items -- I recently acquired a lot of family history items from WWII. I just need to sort through it all -- I'm sure ration books are in there for sure.

This will go over like a cement balloon, but we really need to bring back a national limit. 55 is ideal, but with more aero these days and the tolerance of the public, 60 might be a good compromise.

Lots of people would be VERY vocal about it, but at least we have the AARP folks lobbying for a lowered limit :o

RH77

Silveredwings 02-15-2008 10:54 PM

I think they should change their motto to "live oil-dependent or die."

Lazarus 02-15-2008 10:56 PM

32 states have speed limits of 70 or more. Texas you can do 75 mph which really means 85 mph. Did not our President say we need to break or dependence on oil? This would be a good place to start.

Here's the list for those that are interested.

trebuchet03 02-15-2008 11:09 PM

IIRC Arizona is 75mph too....

Lazarus 02-15-2008 11:11 PM

Yep it's on the list. 13 states have speed limits of 75 mph.:eek:

trebuchet03 02-15-2008 11:21 PM

Do'h, totally missed the list link :D

Gone4 02-16-2008 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Silveredwings (Post 9956)
I think they should change their motto to "live oil-dependent or die."

Many NH highways are actually 55 MPH. For example, all of Rt 3. This will probably apply to only a few like 95, 93, and 89.

That doesn't mean I agree with it. This will reduce revenue from Massachusetts drivers :mad:

MetroMPG 02-17-2008 09:16 PM

Wow - coincidentally, I just found an article that the province of Manitoba is also considering raising the freeway speed limit - from 100 kph (62 mph) to 110 (68).

Currently 110 is the highest limit in Canada (coincidentally - Alberta ... Canada's Texas! ... and Saskatchewan). Everywhere else the freeway limit is 100.

Manitoba government's plan to raise highway speed limit getting rough ride
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2...842962-cp.html

Quote:

WINNIPEG - The Manitoba government's plan to raise its highway speed limit got a rough reception at public hearings Tuesday, as truckers, environmentalists and members of the public warned the change will lead to more crashes, deaths and pollution.

A consultant's report done for the province said the higher speed could result in an extra five serious motor vehicle accidents over the next three years, as well as increased greenhouse gas emissions. On the plus side, the consultant's report said, faster car and truck traffic would boost the economy by millions of dollars a year.
I'd also oppose raising speed limits if it were an issue where I lived.

You go, Ben! Take action!

diesel_john 02-17-2008 11:28 PM

WTHWT thinking.
it will boost the economy in the mid-east.
i did hear george w. ask people to obey speed limit laws, recently.

everyone would get better mileage if they all just drove the speed limit, its like hitting a wall when a big vehicle passes me, if there is no one else coming, sometimes I will swing in behind them until they break the draft.

boxchain 02-19-2008 09:33 PM

Personally I think there should be an inertia limit (mass * velocity) instead of a speed limit. :D

And yes, people driving slow in the fast lane should get a ticket.

RH77 02-19-2008 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by boxchain (Post 10531)
Personally I think there should be an inertia limit (mass * velocity) instead of a speed limit. :D

And yes, people driving slow in the fast lane should get a ticket.

OK, a couple of questions...

Setup: speed limit 60, 2-lanes one direction with contolled-access.

A Semi-Truck is climbing a hill at 45 MPH, and I choose 55 mph (under the limit). So, I pass. Minimum is 40 mph. Do I deserve a ticket for passing?

But yeah, inertia limits (similar to Europe) are definitely warranted -- but hard to enforce in the private segment vs. truck travel. The "peaved" segment would definitely pile up, though. I don't waste time and accelerate to pass -- yes... it's inefficient, but avoids anger on the part of "restrained speeders".

Further, I understand that some "enjoy" teaching these folks a lesson, but remember this: you cannot change individual behavior in one simple example. Road rage is NOT worth it. Education and forums like this are the place to educate and inform...

RH77

igo 02-19-2008 11:24 PM

Wasn't new hampshire one of the last states to keep using a 55mph speed limit? That may have been a log time ago.

bennelson 02-19-2008 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxchain (Post 10531)
Personally I think there should be an inertia limit (mass * velocity) instead of a speed limit.


I like it!

Bicyclists could ride as fast as they want!!!!!


(PS: Yes, I do know of several real-world examples of when regular bicyclists have gotten speeding tickets - 25 mph zone with a steep hill....)

Lazarus 02-19-2008 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennelson (Post 10568)
I like it!

Bicyclists could ride as fast as they want!!!!!


(PS: Yes, I do know of several real-world examples of when regular bicyclists have gotten speeding tickets - 25 mph zone with a steep hill....)

OK what is a inertia limit and how does it work?

bennelson 02-20-2008 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazarus (Post 10573)
OK what is a inertia limit and how does it work?

See post 14 - Mass*velocity. The less you weigh, the faster you could legally go.

RH77 02-20-2008 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by igo (Post 10566)
Wasn't new hampshire one of the last states to keep using a 55mph speed limit? That may have been a log time ago.

Ironically, Pennsylvania was the last State to adopt 65. They even had signs advertising "Still 55..."

It wasn't until the DOT Feds threatened to withdraw funding, that the Commonwealth was forced to adopt the "National Limit".

RH77

Lazarus 02-20-2008 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennelson (Post 10576)
See post 14 - Mass*velocity. The less you weigh, the faster you could legally go.

I don't see how that would work. I'll have to research it a little.

Thanks

RH77 02-20-2008 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazarus (Post 10579)
I don't see how that would work. I'll have to research it a little.

Thanks

Basically, it's stopping distance, stability in emergency situations, and mass. In Europe, tractor-trailers and other large vehicles have speed limit stickers on the trailer, based on the weight of the vehicle (for use on Motorways).

The best I could find on the subject.

RH77

igo 02-20-2008 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RH77 (Post 10577)
Ironically, Pennsylvania was the last State to adopt 65. They even had signs advertising "Still 55..."

It wasn't until the DOT Feds threatened to withdraw funding, that the Commonwealth was forced to adopt the "National Limit".

RH77

Ok, yeah I remember now. It was circa 1995. I was a little kid when PA upped the limit to 65.


New Hampshire was one of the last states where the driver was required to where a seatbelt (I am confusing my laws).

tjts1 02-20-2008 06:14 PM

Speed limits on the highway are inherently dangerous and serve no purpose other than a source of money for local government. A portion of the population is going to break the law whether you set the limit at 55 or 70. The worst part about it is the complete lack of lane discipline in America. The concept of "slower traffic keep right" is completely lost on some people. A lower speed limit would encourage more slow drivers to use the left lane presenting a road block to everybody else. Speed alone isn't inherently dangerous. Its the difference in speed that will kill you. The prime example of this is the carpool lane at rush hour. 3 lanes sit in stop and go traffic while the lane immediately to their left can moving at 60mph. Try merging into the car pool with that kind of speed differential.

I like to look at the Germans as nice example. Anyone that has driven in Germany knows that there are speed limits on the Autobahn. But the speed limits change based on traffic congestion, time of day and weather. This can range from 100kph in on a crowded stretch through Munich to unlimited on the open road. I don't think any single speed limit right for all places all the time.

Gone4 02-20-2008 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by igo (Post 10663)
Ok, yeah I remember now. It was circa 1995. I was a little kid when PA upped the limit to 65.


New Hampshire was one of the last states where the driver was required to where a seatbelt (I am confusing my laws).

We actually just passed the seat belt. We are withheld federal government money, OUR own money WE pay in taxes to the feds... Anyways we repealed the fascist Real ID and, in order to displace more of our money being stolen, we passed a seat belt law.

We don't always do well at the "Live Free or Die" motto, but we try. The rest of this country just enjoys living under authoritarian control way too much.


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