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Matt Herring 06-25-2008 07:04 PM

O2 Sensor Resistor
 
A friend of mine purchased an O2 sensor resistor that he added to his car and he swears he gets better gas mileage with the resistor (about 5 mpg better). I told him he probably is paying more attention to his mpg and driving more efficiently so his mpg went up.

He sent me this note that came with the part to describe the benefits of adding it to your car:

"With the new fuel injection systems of post-1980 vehicles lower mpg has been seen over time because the Fuel system runs too rich from the factory. The added resistor will automatically tune your vehicles Air/Fuel Ratio Mixture to run at stoichometric levels." It has TR-454 on the resistor as the part number.

Has anyone tried this mod with their car and what were the results? Is this a myth or something to look into? The part costs around $10 so it might be something worth trying even if it's at a $10 loss.

Lazarus 06-25-2008 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Herring (Post 38347)
A friend of mine purchased an O2 sensor resistor that he added to his car and he swears he gets better gas mileage with the resistor (about 5 mpg better). I told him he probably is paying more attention to his mpg and driving more efficiently so his mpg went up.

He sent me this note that came with the part to describe the benefits of adding it to your car:

"With the new fuel injection systems of post-1980 vehicles lower mpg has been seen over time because the Fuel system runs too rich from the factory. The added resistor will automatically tune your vehicles Air/Fuel Ratio Mixture to run at stoichometric levels." It has TR-454 on the resistor as the part number.

Has anyone tried this mod with their car and what were the results? Is this a myth or something to look into? The part costs around $10 so it might be something worth trying even if it's at a $10 loss.

Do you have a link? Modern FI car are set to run at stoichometric. There are device that you run to the O2 sensor that spoofs it to run leaner then Stoichometric thus giving better mileage.

SVOboy 06-25-2008 07:09 PM

There are a lot of these tricks out there. The problem is that randomly leaning out your AFRs may be good or bad for fuel economy, but is very likely going to make your emissions worse, :p

Matt Herring 06-25-2008 07:18 PM

There isn't a link for this to give you but this is the original email my friend sent me. I did not post the entire text earlier as I didn't want to make the original post too long. I think he purchased the part on Ebay but I also read somewhere that the part is available at Radio Shack.
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Lazarus 06-25-2008 07:26 PM

Non of that make since to me. More power torque by running Stoich. I'll let more knowledgeable folks speak to it. If it came from e-bay it sounds like the .50 cent resistor that you can buy from radio shack that you put in the IAT sensor that fools it into thinking the temperature is either cold ( performance) or hot (fuel).

This mod has worked on a few makes of cars but not many. As SVO stated it will also increase emissions:(

I say scam.

Matt Herring 06-25-2008 07:33 PM

I'm skeptical as well but figured I'd run it by the forum to see what everyone thinks. I'm open to any and all opinions. On another note, the scooter I purchased is about halfway through a full tank and so far I'm at estimated 90-100mpg. Drive it to work as much as weather allows. Also, increased psi on tires on my '05 Toyota 4Runner from 36 to 45 last week and already see about 3-4mpg increase on my factory Toyota fuel gauge (from 20 mpg to 24 mpg) halfway through this last fill-up.

Daox 06-25-2008 08:17 PM

As SVOboy said, you can lean out your air/fuel ratio and gain mileage. NOx emissions will go up from this. In Honda's lean burn engines they have special catalytic converters to deal with this.

However, that ad is total BS. Stock systems are already designed to operate at stoimetric levels and do it very well already. Leaning out a mixture will definitly not give you more power, it'll give you less. Richening up the mixture may provide sightly more power, but result in worse mileage. I depends on how the resistor is wired to the sensor as to what it'll do.

steensn 06-26-2008 10:30 AM

I had mentioned this in an earlier thread along with a resistor for the air temp sensor and the idea was shot down big time. I still want to try it when I get time, but I have yet to do it.

But the increased torque and better fuel economy does not at all go together for a mod like this.

ttoyoda 06-26-2008 11:18 AM

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A friend of mine purchased an O2 sensor resistor that he added to his car and he swears he gets better gas mileage with the resistor

Measure the value of his resistor. Get a resistor of the same value for a penny and try it yourself. I think it must be a pretty high value resistor to make a difference, because the input resistance of the ECU must be very high. Now if you are talking about injecting a voltage into the O2 sensor wire, that is something else.

steensn 06-26-2008 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ttoyoda (Post 38539)
Measure the value of his resistor. Get a resistor of the same value for a penny and try it yourself. I think it must be a pretty high value resistor to make a difference, because the input resistance of the ECU must be very high. Now if you are talking about injecting a voltage into the O2 sensor wire, that is something else.


Are you suggesting pulling up the signal with a voltage gain?


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