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pete c 06-09-2013 07:14 AM

Power brakes delete
 
Has anyone done it?

I realize that PB is free power, but only having a few pumps during EOC is a PITA and a little scary when the pedal turns to stone when you need it.

I am looking at getting a 96 aspire. It has manual steering already, but it does have PB. Not sure if it has ABS. I suppose having ABS would mean I am stuck with PB as well.

California98Civic 06-09-2013 07:29 AM

I'm told you can increase the size of the vacuum tube for the brakes, giving more reserve power. But it's easiest just to momentarily restart the engine. Remember, modifying your brakes haphazardly could be fatal.

redneck 06-09-2013 07:43 AM

pete c
Power brakes delete

Quote:

Originally Posted by California98Civic (Post 375558)
I'm told you can increase the size of the vacuum tube for the brakes, giving more reserve power. But it's easiest just to momentarily restart the engine. Remember, modifying your brakes haphazardly could be fatal.

+1 :thumbup:

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D.O.G. 06-09-2013 08:14 AM

Having previously owned and daily driven a couple of cars without power assisted brakes (from the factory), one with drums all round and one with discs at the front, I wouldn't go back.

For a classic that's only used on weekends, in light traffic, no power assist works OK.
For a daily that may have to cope with lunatic drivers in peak hour traffic, I wouldn't risk it anymore.

pete c 06-09-2013 09:28 AM

I would guess that a 2100 lb aspire with front discs would stop just fine. Actually retrofitting though is probably not worth the effort.

Going to a larger vac hose may provide faster recovery, but it really doesn't add much to the stored vac. I think a better alternative may be adding a second vacuum tank. An extra tank, the size of the booster should double the number of pumps you have.

Maybe a vac gauge would be a good idea as it gives you a little warning that you are about to run out.

mechman600 06-09-2013 09:30 AM

Do what I did on my EV conversion. Used Volvo vacuum pump from a wrecker. A vacuum switch (http://www.evsource.com/tls_braking_system.php - third item down) that turns on the pump through a relay. My brakes work great with no ICE sucking anymore - as good as they were stock.
http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/...rtYEw60_12.jpg

pete c 06-09-2013 09:43 AM

Thanks, mech. 35 bucks for the switch and the pump from a boneyard for a few bucks sounds like it might be worth it.

Ryland 06-09-2013 10:15 AM

You can make a vacuum bottle out of PVC pipe for just a few bucks as well, then just "T" it in to the brake booster after the check valve.
I like the electric vacuum pump idea tho.
Making your car harder to stop seems like a bad idea, if for some reason someone else goes to use your car they could get hurt or killed and that doesn't save a whole lot of gas.

wolydotmatrix 06-09-2013 10:22 AM

Power Brakes
 
I have opted for a larger booster (290V) + 1" master cylinder and it seems to work well.

California98Civic 06-09-2013 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolydotmatrix (Post 375579)
I have opted for a larger booster (290V) + 1" master cylinder and it seems to work well.

Would you do a write-up on your mod... I'd love to see it. Is this really a fuel saver?


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