Prius 75-91mpg
Hey folks. This is my work prius, since the photo the aircon, passenger airbags, heater matrix and numerous small parts have been removed. It passed uk MOT test. The main difference in mpg is temperature, for me I put down to transfer efficiency being increased in the summer weather, notably above 25c
https://i.imgur.com/06RiPaC.jpg With further aerodynamic changes and new lighter parts (seat, windows etc) eventually I expect 80-98mpg |
I’ve not seen a gutted Prius before, but I applaud the effort... weight is one of the biggest factors in city mileage, which the HSD is already optimized for...
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How much weight was lost?
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I'm guessing these are imperial mpgs, so 62-75 mpg US. Still very impressive!
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How much did you save weight? I failed MOT on my old porsche when I had door panels removed? They said sharp edges are not allowed but there where no edges on the door frames
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That interior wouldn't pass the yearly MOT (technical inspection) here either
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http://www.solarvan.co.uk You've already made your Prius a 1-seater anyway, may as well go whole hog with the light weight of an Insight... |
Hey samwiche, wow thanks. I knew of the newer insight and decided against it but didnt know of the mk1. hmmm
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Much appreciated :) :thumbup:.
A couple of breakdown companies cover cars without a spare wheel - RAC and AA are not obliged to help n/b regarding the initial post and measurement. The highest mpg was steady 49mph, little or no gradients with no extra equipment in the car, no cruise, no drafting. The worst was 80mph average with gradient changes and overtaking. I sometimes draft, in the fast lane x5/4x4's are good and behind lorries in 50 zones, although I've not measured that as results are not consistent. Also when I mentioned temperature the results were mid-summer and winter results will be considerable less, maybe 15mpg less |
https://ibb.co/ZM8BrT0
this is after the first stage, before the computers got ripped out https://ibb.co/ZM8BrT0 ..As far as I recall it was'nt quite a full tank, maybe 8/10 but still I was happy. Also see the ambient temps, do make a big difference |
Pretty nice numbers. Probably not a comfortable ride but I appreciate a purpose-built machine.
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Thanks
..Comfort to me is retaining 96% of gross yield and fuel is the main cost of the business. I only miss the radio and I could get a 150 gram mp3 player if it was a real bugbear |
Gen 2 Prius
FYI
I am considering your light weighting process of vehicle on my 08 Gen2 Prius Additionally am considering using Lexan to replace some of the rear window glass and possible rear hatch |
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:thumbup: You'll probably mostly notice better acceleration and probably better handling but at the expense of greatly increased cabin noise and ride harshness. |
Never understood modding a car at great expense and time to go faster when you can just buy a faster car. If it's improved fuel economy, decreasing the weight isn't going to help much, especially on a Prius.
I removed the rear windshield wiper on my Prius. That's the extent of the modding I've done. Certainly don't want to ruin the thing. |
This weeks change, grill block
http://i65.tinypic.com/16gc4dg.jpg http://i64.tinypic.com/21r0o1.jpg Carbon fibre has been ordered for more parts. n.b I did lose a race with a porsche on sunday which was really annoying, and he looked like a nob |
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Theres a few other more difficult mods
Hey ya'll like my new clock? http://i63.tinypic.compr4o8.jpg http:// //imgur.com/a/6zZhqh1 image wont upload, 11g clock and vmeter |
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New stuff
Ive made window pillars from carbon to support the 2mm plastic. Also have purchased 24m of fibre to replace some rear sections, bonnet and wings/fenders. The wheels are pretty lightweight and not much heavier than carbon ones. Im up to just over 100mpg in mild weather but think with smaller profile tyres (45), a 2.5" lowering and the new parts I can get about 110-115 as an absolute maximum. A respray in autumn too, for asthetics, wont affect friction drag to any noticable extent
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mirrors
I dismantled the mirrors and cannot find an easy way to remove the motors. Currently they are 800g each but will be given attention next year
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You might be surprised to learn, but I did some math yesterday and it turns out the inertia of a wheel actually goes down as the aspect ratio (and thus overall diameter) goes up, because it spins more slowly. So, in effect, a 165/80r14 tire is "lighter", inertially speaking, than a 165/40r14.
Going more narrow is always a win, but don't compromise safety. There's also gearing to consider. I know a Prius has "infinite" ratios, but going up or down in size may have unintended consequences. |
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All that as a prelude to saying, I don't get that result using representative tire dimensions and weights from Tire Rack--for the 185/55R14 and 185/75R14 I compared just now (they don't list any 165/xxR14), the larger tire still has higher angular momentum.... |
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Angular momentum is likely the term I wanted. |
Wheels
Thanks, they will be reduced from 65 to 45mm. Only for weight, car height and acceleration. Width will be slightly increased from stock as they are now
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By going smaller, you *effectively* make the wheels heavier, because they have to spin at higher RPM for a given road speed. This is normally close to a wash, but by going wider at the same time you're definitely going to cause the wheels to hold more angular momentum, even if they weigh less on a scale. Most cars would "feel" like they accelerate more quickly with smaller tires, but it would be because they're now geared lower. I don't know if this applies in a Prius. You would achieve your goal of lowering the car, but you'd also likely hurt both aerodynamics and rolling resistance (all else being equal) with a smaller, wider tire. |
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I might play around with this some more using other tires and their masses; this might be enough to split into a new thread. |
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n.b unless the night temps are above 30c and theres no traffic |
So this thread was about reducing weight, but we still don't have an answer of how much weight was lost.
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The weighstation is closed down but will find one at some point. Quarter lights and boot to be replaced next month
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Not everything, posting pictures is difficult. Moulding replaces spoiler too. Also made some carbon pillar supports for the plastic windows. Hovering around 100 mpg (26c ambient). Will crack on with bonnet/wings/bumpers in the autumn when I have more time Glass/spoiler 8.35kg Carbon 2.05kg Quarters and the narrow smoked glass will be done next week. Will make a poly viewing slot n.b Im getting used to carbon, I made a pillar support for underneath and its more rigid than needed so I recon 300g could have been shaved off with selective reinforce points More rigid than the glass incidentally!!! Need a better website with cut paste photo upload |
You should be able to attach images directly when posting. Alternatively, I use imgur for hosting and put img brackets around a direct link to the image.
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I can't do it and imagegur takes ages. I'll do more in batches next time. Thanks
Well they worked yesterday and I cant see a way to attach pictures Oh...thanks its in advanced?? |
Unfortunately none of your images work for me.
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Heres some it's still taking ages as the pictures are on my phone
Theres a pillar underneath I made from casting a hoover pipe on the back of the glass, it strenthens but might have been overkill Also the bits are where the wind blew while I was indoors and leaves and tree bits landed on it and wont come out |
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All done, its easier to make carbon fiber than post pictures. The tape it just to hold it down while the panel bond goes off. Ive ordered enough stuff to do the front end. Getting it sprayed will be the most expensive part
The lines are where the sheets are folded in the post, you can get it rolled but more expensive... |
Are you replacing the back glass with carbon fiber?
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Hi, yes it replaces the rear glass and spoiler and light. The boot only needs one lift strut too now. I really want to replace the smoked glass section too at some point
..I plan to do the quarter lights next week, according to calculations they weigh altogether 1.6kg, the carbon fibre will weigh 210g. I can use quite thinner layers as it's narrower support distances. After the glasses it becomes quite difficult to reduce weight |
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