Rocket-tabs
 

Hello,
I discovered a tire mod that increases mpg by up to 20%.
I have called them Rocket-tabs. I am looking for someone to give them a try.

What does the mod do? An you provide any more info?

They are small foam tabs that are glued to the tires. They gently move the air away from the sides. I have over 40k of tested miles.

You got a link to any further info? With claims of 20%, id like to see something... pics maybe?

Rocket-tabs fuel saving device on Facebook.

So from the pics and install directions, they’re a vortex generation tab that you glue to the sidewall of the tire... can they be removed from the tire without damaging either the tab or the tire, or do we need to buy a new set for each tire change?

They can be removed with damage. A very small line of super glue remains. I would think if removed carefully they can be reused.

For $25 a set I’d surely hope they could be reused... it adds about 15% to the cost of each of my tires

I don’t see someone with smooth wheel covers benefiting though, the vortex generator on the tire kinda defeats the purpose of the smooth wheel cover

My mistake. I have had no damage to the tires other than the small amount of glue left behind. The 25 dollar price is installed. $5.99 for a set with extras. Again sorry for the error.

I have not tested with the smooth hubcaps. All I can say is my wife is very happy with the results. She has the rogue, it went from 22mpg to 27-28mpg. She does drive like she stole it.

A set is for all 4 tires.

I figured you meant to say “no damage”... would still like to see some independent test data to verify any potential gains

Going from 22 to 28mpg is huge, and I’m sure that IF it works, it could be a good alternative to smooth wheel covers (for folks like my wife who don’t like them), the issue is that there are a ton of variables that could skew the test either way

Ok, the debate goes on. I would be more than happy to dyno test them. I am always open for ideas. This is why I posted my idea here.

By debate I mean, what is usable data.

I would think that an A-B test performed by an unbiased person should help to convince the folks on here... we’re a skeptical bunch, usually wanting some sort of unbiased data on a “new” mod...

I agree. Feel free to contact me on Facebook. I will be more than happy to let you try them.free of charge. Or email via my website.thank you

I sent you a message on your site since I don’t have FB...

Cool, thank you. I will check for it.

I would love to see an aero device dyno tested.

I just imagined an episode of Mighty Car Mods where they strap a Holden Commodore to the dyno with a belly pan on, and it makes exactly the same kW to the wheels as before... don’t know if they ever tested aero but I know they tested lots of other stuff

I will check into on Tuesday. Camping right now for the weekend. I will check my phone from time to time. There also maybe an issue with the rocket-tabs.com email. My support person is working on it.

No one else is doing saying it but I will.
I'm calling BS on 20%.
Maybe 5% or less I could believe.
And if they worked we would already be seeing them on tractor trailers, but tractor trailers have opted for smooth hub caps.

I could test a set and I have the perfect vehicle to test something like this with. I have a nissan leaf that gives real time traction power output. Anything that reduces drive power consumption by anywhere near 10% would be an very, very obvious above 60mph.

I wouldn´t be so harsh. There is slight chance you really have discovered something new.

But I think everyone here agrees you need to do a proper A-B-A testing before you make such claims here. See this thread:
https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...tml#post147532

... and come back with results.

3 small triangles per tyre, resulting in 5 to 20% improvement in FE ?

Ain't happening.

Let's move this to the Corral ...

Your website doesn't offer an option without installing
25$ / set is the only option

I'll take 2 sets @ 6$ + shipping (if it's reasonable to the EU) and give them a go

Part of the reason I wanna test this is that the vortex generated around the tire could eliminate the need for wheel skirting, maybe could help mileage on cars lacking full skirts... I do agree with oil pan though, 20% most likely ain’t gonna happen...

A funny side note regarding efficiency:
Let us say you have a mod worth of 1 mpg ( your car travels 1 mile further per gallon).
When you apply it on an average ecomodder members Insight, not a big deal going from 57 to 58 MPG. 1.7 percent.
But, if you apply the same mod on a car someone is driving with 18 MPG, you can celebrate five, almost six percent increase!
Percents are misleading.

5% is 1mpg at a 20mpg average, but it’s 2.5mpg at an average of 50...

Tires already shed 3 pairs of vortices, which is why a spinning tire generates less drag than a non-spinning one. It isn't clear to me that 1) placing these tabs on the tire, so they're spinning with it, will generate vortices (how are they shaped?), or 2) if they are, that the vortices generated will somehow have a beneficial interaction with the existing vortices around the tire and lower its drag.

https://ecomodder.com/forum/member-v...524-124848.jpg

I agree, this should be moved to the Corral until the OP provides some documentation to back up his claims, especially if he came on here to sell these.

Just think... a boat tail is probably the mod with the largest gain... and some add on to tires is supposed to as significant? Prove it.

If these things work, won t manufacturers put the OP oitmof business by simply moulding them integral into the tyrewall?

Until there is some independently reviewed evidence I too believe this is more suitable for the corrall.

Triangular

Looks like they'll be "cutting through" the lengthwise vortices as the tyre spins, and generate a vortex of their own , but a vortex that's continuously moving down (on the front side of the wheel)


https://ecomodder.com/forum/member-e...92876544-n.jpg

Totally looks like 100% increase in FE! :eek:
Why claim only 20%??? :confused:
22 to 28 is more like 25% anyway.
I reported it as spam before there were any responses at all and here we are. :rolleyes:

Ah, when they don't work, I can always use them as vortex generators ;)

I tried to Google "rocket tab" and was rewarded with this result:

"RocketTab is an adware program that displays pop-up ads and unwanted advertisements on web pages that you visit."

I know OP is selling something and I already know its snake oil content is very high. I just really dig the juxtaposition of names, products and market welcome.

I wonder, though, if the snake oil content is deliberate. If OP conducts thorough testing in consistent conditions and revisits his claims - especially to refute them if they are disproved - I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. It's more likely that unintentional bias has affected the behavior of the drivers. It happens.

Much better testing is required to determine whether the tabs are doing anything at all. I strongly doubt it.

But there's no way in hell I'm dropping $25 on these things. Even if testing somehow shows them having a measurable effect, forget it.

If the tabs on the curbside get scraped off, does the vehicle spiral into a ditch? :confused:

P.S. I will answer my own question: Not if the Ram Implosion Wing is angled a few degrees to the right.

elhigh, ya got me thinkin'... there are a zillion cheaper sources- or maybe just take them from the baby and give it a cardboard box- PLUS they have other shapes to play with!!! :eek: Maybe the best Rocket Tabs are moon shaped? :confused:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Odc2FuJtL.jpg

It looks like the cross section of some cheap plastic moldings from Home Depot. I could make a bazillion bucks selling these things to the gullible, just buy up fifty bucks worth of molding, slice off 12 little sections, sand them a bit to get the base profile right.

I could...but my conscience won't allow it. Plus it'd be difficult to convince people they're really for cars when they still have that attractive maple woodgrain.

Back from a weekend of camping. I would like to send out some samples. 10-20 sets for you to try. I would need a ship to address. Please email me at davekacz131@gmail.com. until I get all the corrections to the web site.

Some very good comments. Thank you and keep the interest coming.