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hat_man 03-10-2013 06:19 PM

ScanGauge or MPGuino
 
Hello,

I'm sure this has been asked before but a search here and on Google only turns up limited information. I am just trying to check myself on the info I have read.

I have a '97 Ford Ranger 2.3l 5sp manual. It seems that the ScanGauge does not work with this truck. I am only looking to have an instant mpg and average mpg readout. I assume that this is because there is some sensor or other input missing from this truck.

The MPGuino looks like it is a bit above my "skill set" as I would prefer something that is more plug and play.

I have thought about installing a vacuum gauge, but I thought I had read somewhere that they can be a bit unreliable. I am no mechanic so I don't really know if this is true or not and probably don't have the skills to get this done either.

Does anyone have any ideas on what I could use to get the instant and average read-outs I am looking for?

Thanks

some_other_dave 03-10-2013 07:50 PM

A vacuum gauge will not tell you average MPG. It won't really tell you instant MPG either, but it will tell you how hard you are asking your engine to work at any given moment, which at least tells you "using more fuel" or "using less fuel".

The Scangauge isn't an option in your case.

The only option for you seems to be the MPGuino. If you have a buddy who tinkers with electronics, he can help you build it. Or you might be able to buy one that is already built. (Maybe post a WTB ad in the Instrumentation forum?) But you would still have to find and tap into the fuel injector signal wire and vehicle speed wire.

-soD

brucepick 03-10-2013 09:49 PM

Yes, if a ScanGauge truly doesn't work on your vehicle, I think an MPGuino is your only real option. But it's a good option, as I see it.

You can buy it assembled. See the "instrumentation" forum here, and then the "MPGuino" subforum under that. They come without a case but my first case for mine was cardboard and perfectly usable. Yes you might need a buddy to get it wired into the Ranger but don't let that stop you. Wiring it in is not a huge job.

Just remember: For connecting to the VSS and injector signals, you can chose between connecting at the computer, or at the device itself. Use whichever is easiest for you or your helper buddy.

turbovr41991 03-11-2013 09:58 AM

Wow, I am shocked scangauge does not work in the ranger. I have a 97 ranger as well, but only driving it 1 -2 times a week for short distances so never installed the scan guage. I will have to check this out!

Also, I will support what everyone is saying. The MPGuino is the way to go. It is the most accruate and is the cheapest option. You can find a few people on here making premade usits for sale. Good luck!

some_other_dave 03-11-2013 07:27 PM

Shoot, I thought the OP said "95" and not "97". Not sure what the standard is for trucks, but all cars for model year 1996 and later must have OBD2, which is what the ScanGauge (and UltraGauge) plug into. Truck rules sometimes lag car rules, so a 97 Ranger might or might not have an OBD2 plug above the driver's left knee.

Sorry if I was spreading any misinformation!

-soD

hat_man 03-12-2013 06:47 PM

SoD...I think it has something with not having certain sensors on my '97. The ScanGauge website has a listing of compatible vehicles and mine is one of the "exceptions". I think I am going to have to try and find a pre-assembled MPGuino and find some help getting it wired in.

AndrzejM 03-13-2013 04:58 PM

Quote:

The MPGuino looks like it is a bit above my "skill set" as I would prefer something that is more plug and play.
Installing MPGuino is very simple, You just need to hook up 4 cables and calibrate it. It's not a rocket science. And I'm sure you'll find any help needed here.

hat_man 03-13-2013 06:33 PM

AndrzejM....maybe I'll have to look into it further. What do these 4 cables hook up to?

some_other_dave 03-13-2013 06:50 PM

I believe they're power (+12V), ground, vehicle speed sensor, and injector pulse.

-soD

hat_man 03-13-2013 07:19 PM

SoD...is it just a matter of tapping into vss and injector wires? Power and ground would be pretty easy. Maybe this isn't as hard as I am thinking it is.


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