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freebeard 06-01-2020 05:20 PM

Sorry. Not sorry.
 
I tried. I didn't name the 'other sources' to forestall this.

The press briefing was re-upped. Golden State Times is a California [sounding] media outlet. Support California when you can.

The video is 52 minutes of sound checks, but the bumper music is nice. Drop in at https://youtu.be/fE1vA4mmF4w?t=3159.

redneck 06-02-2020 05:52 PM

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https://i.postimg.cc/brCmR1fZ/7828-A...1-B0-A00-C.jpg

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redpoint5 06-02-2020 09:50 PM

In your other post, you referenced BLM. Then I started seeing that more frequently on the web and was wondering why everyone was talking about the Bureau of Land Management all of a sudden. Figured some ranchers had got into it again with BLM over grazing or something. I don't know, I don't follow the news. I think I'm happier than most.

freebeard 06-03-2020 02:36 AM

My friends upriver follow the news and I don't think they ever will recover. He's got his hopes pinned on Judge Sullivan, that can't end well.

Instead of the news I follow the 'conspiracy theory LARPers'. There is a much better track record there. Twitter is for normies. The open source intelligence has an insider track [record].

General Flynn['s persecution] is the linch-pin that holds the whole house of cards together.

Bureau of Land Management. It's like Malheur county was another world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupa...ildlife_Refuge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVoy_Finicum

redneck —
https://babylonbee.com/img/articles/article-6282-2.jpg
babylonbee.com: Powerful: Protesters Spell Out 'Love' With Burning Homes And Businesses

redneck 06-03-2020 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 625645)

Instead of the news I follow the 'conspiracy theory LARPers'. There is a much better track record there. Twitter is for normies. The open source intelligence has an insider track [record].




https://i.postimg.cc/DzNkB68L/549-B0...54-F1-B100.jpg


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freebeard 06-04-2020 04:45 PM

Just sayin'...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1268612312459509761

oil pan 4 06-05-2020 03:43 AM

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https://ecomodder.com/forum/attachme...1&d=1591339273

So who do the anti gun dummies think will protect them when they defund the police?

redpoint5 06-05-2020 05:10 AM

I heard if you support violent rioters, they leave you alone.

*Some surprised foul language*
https://twitter.com/i/status/1267923228674199553

The resent SA videos have been interesting.

Fat Charlie 06-05-2020 07:12 AM

Yeah, that's why PBAs give window decals to donors.

redneck 06-05-2020 12:18 PM

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She’s back... Again...!!!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lating-US.html



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oil pan 4 06-05-2020 05:12 PM

Thank god he wasn't black.

freebeard 06-05-2020 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution
The Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution was adopted on July 9, 1868, as one of the Reconstruction Amendments. Arguably one of the most consequential amendments to this day, the amendment addresses citizenship rights and equal protection under the law and was proposed in response to issues related to former slaves following the American Civil War.

150+ years since the Constitution was amended, and yet still no gratitude?

Some sources say the riots were allowed to happen because you can't prosecute without a crime, and Antifa has been thoroughly infiltrated.

Apparently, like Sir Patrick Mack, I live in the near future. On 2020-06-01 I posted this in an Aerodynanics thread, when I killed the one in The Lounge.
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It's scary to think what the Chinese people could accomplish if they weren't besotted with bad governance.
I went back and added the strike-through to save that thread. :)

Now today, there is this: https://youtu.be/gdUOlqZ7844. If you look into it it's Steve Bannon doing a Benjamin Fulford play.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 06-05-2020 08:36 PM

All that BLM BS is spreading outside the U.S. too. There were some riots in Brazil too.

Piotrsko 06-06-2020 10:06 AM

Clive Bundy has apparently won a couple of technical arguments against the BLM recently, but got overshadowed by other news.

redpoint5 06-09-2020 02:59 AM

Portland Police: 'We Wish There Were Some Kind Of Organized, Armed Force That Could Fight Back Against Antifa'

https://babylonbee.com/news/portland...against-antifa

redneck 06-09-2020 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by redpoint5 (Post 625954)
Portland Police: 'We Wish There Were Some Kind Of Organized, Armed Force That Could Fight Back Against Antifa'

https://babylonbee.com/news/portland...against-antifa

Well...

There is...

Kinda sorta...

https://nationalfile.com/report-anti...ls-biker-gang/



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jakobnev 06-09-2020 01:12 PM

Pulp comment
 
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For a long time there has been a rivalry between cyclists and parents over who are the biggest morons. This guy is the real MVP, he is using his own child as a human shield:

https://ecomodder.com/forum/attachme...1&d=1591718628

I was expecting excrement on Twitter today but found gold:

https://ecomodder.com/forum/attachme...1&d=1591718885

American police get a lot of crap for basically being used diapers wrapped in blue ribbon, but here is a video showing how brutal the Norwegian police can be:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1PNPcnffbk

redpoint5 06-09-2020 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakobnev (Post 625972)
For a long time there has been a rivalry between cyclists and parents over who are the biggest morons. This guy is the real MVP, he is using his own child as a human shield:

https://ecomodder.com/forum/attachme...1&d=1591718628

Amazes me that people are bringing their children to these "peaceful protests", but perhaps the media is to blame since they only talk about how peaceful everything is.

Anyhow, it's clear from the photo that the cops aren't even looking at the man, but instead focused on something more menacing in the background. Shame on the photographer for not capturing what is actually going on.

That weapon looks like a teargas launcher, though I've never seen one so I'm only speculating. If so, it's used to disperse a crowd, not subdue individuals. It's painted scary black though, so clearly an "assault weapon".

freebeard 06-09-2020 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by redneck
Well...

There is...

Kinda sorta...

National Guard
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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
The mayor of Washington D.C. found out what not having a state government implies. (peace and quiet)

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jakobnev — I watched the video. Liked the final chuckle in the car at the end.

Was it Tucker Carlson who said the country was broken over the weekend? I forget, things move fast. Anywho, Andy Ngo, the reporter who was beaten by Antifa just months ago published this:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaFHpQfU...jpg&name=large
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status...123010/photo/4
I don't know if kids these days have read their Hakim Bey (1991 is 3 decades ago), but autonomous zones are necessarily temporary.
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Originally Posted by DDG
Temporary Autonomous Zone - Wikipedia
Search domain en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporary_Autonomous_Zonehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporary_Autonomous_Zone
T.A.Z.: The Temporary Autonomous Zone is a book by the anarchist writer and poet Hakim Bey (Peter Lamborn Wilson) published in 1991 by Autonomedia and in 2011 by Pacific Publishing Studio (ISBN 978-1-4609-0177-9).It is composed of three sections, "Chaos: The Broadsheets of Ontological Anarchism", "Communiques of the Association for Ontological Anarchy" and "The Temporary Autonomous Zone".

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In other news Our President was right:
naturalnews.com: After mocking Trump for it, mainstream media now reporting on breakthrough UV light treatments that disinfect the body
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According to Andrei Goverdovsky, who works at Russia’s state nuclear agency in Rosatom, the project has been dubbed “luminous gas” and, believe it or not, really is a type of disinfectant – which means that Trump was right once again in using the word disinfectant to describe one of the novel treatments being developed for this novel virus.

“So far, no one has managed to hold UV disinfection inside a person,” Goverdovsky is quoted as saying. “We figured out how to do this. We select molecules and gas components that when inhaled remain activated and emit ultraviolet light directly in the lungs.”
Luminiferous aether is steampunk AF.

Fat Charlie 06-09-2020 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 625975)
In other news Our President was right:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sumb3GYuAT8

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

freebeard 06-09-2020 08:54 PM

No brakes on that clock. :)

I didn't know which was the band and which was the song, so:
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Beelzebubba
Beelzebubba is the fourth full-length studio album by the American satirical punk rock band The Dead Milkmen, released in 1988. The album received strong reviews. The album features their best-known song, "Punk Rock Girl." In 1989, the Dead Milkmen released the Smokin' Banana Peels EP, which contained several remixes of the song "Smokin' Banana Peels." It also featured several previously unreleased songs.Wikipedia
Darwin's troubadours. What do you think, was the whole Tide Pod thing another part of the [apparently decades long] Conspiracy? To prime the [stomach] pump? Bored is the trigger word?
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Consider the concept— that there is a fluorescent gas that is not Mercury vapor that has a favorable LD50. I think it's genius, but I'm not stable. :)

Fat Charlie 06-09-2020 10:07 PM

Bleach Boys was the song.

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Maybe there'll be a party at the beach
We'll bi+ch about life and chug-a-lug bleach
No one's getting high and no one's getting drunk
We got a case off bleach stashed in the trunk.
I wanna die with clorox within reach.
I'm very proud of the respect I've earned
And my voice is very deep 'cause my throat got burned.
Bleach keeps you young so I've been told
'cause no one who drinks it lives to be old
Drink it with a chaser is the first thing I learned.
He spoke about many things in that odd bit of performance art. Bringing UV light into the body and injecting disinfectant were a couple of them. But pulling something out of that ramble and saying "he's right" is like claiming Nostradamus predicted Virginia taking last year's NCAA basketball championship. Maybe you can find the right words in the right order somewhere, but I'm not buying it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMAT3B4nDpU

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 06-10-2020 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jakobnev (Post 625972)
how brutal the Norwegian police can be

Dealing with some random drunk once in a while is not the same as handling a bunch of brainwashed idiots willing to pose as a thug and ruining their own communities while simultaneously trying to put the blame on someone else. That's why it's not so easy to compare Norwegian police with American police.

freebeard 06-10-2020 12:58 AM

The difference is as much in the clientele as the police themselves. How would them handle a Color Revolution?
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America's Color Revolution - The American Sun
https://theamericansun.com/2020/06/0...or-revolution/
The color revolution is better described by the foreign observers who say "are externally fueled acts with a clear goal to influence the internal affairs that destabilize the economy, conflict with the law and represent a new form of warfare". Something happens, protests occur that switch from the event to the regime, next thing you know ...
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Originally Posted by Fat Charlie
He spoke about many things in that odd bit of performance art.

The thing he didn't talk about was drinking bleach. That was purely a product of the press. Prolly to distract from Hydroxychloroquine. Same as with the "Fine People' hoax.

Your own video clip shows that it was the Security Director of Homeland Security that jump-started the misapprehension.

redpoint5 06-10-2020 01:12 AM

Regarding the new signature, this is the same reasoning I apply to prove that time travel is not possible by humans. If it were, we'd go back in time, introduce the future technology, which would then boost future technology, which could be introduced back in time, etc, etc. In other words, we'd have infinitely advanced technology now. I don't have infinitely advanced technology, just a stupid iPhone.

freebeard 06-10-2020 01:23 AM

Thanx. I think it has layers. One is that it's a license to do anything that nobody comes back to stop you from doing. Tempered of course by countervailing forces.

I'd been thinking about changing it again:
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Robert hath a swift hand
He doth gaze upon the fyrd, and he maketh a plan
He hath a jaunty cap, perched upon his head, he is a longbowman
He did find an old bow of yew
And a quiver of arrows in his father’s chest, wherefore I cannot say
But he cometh for thee, yea he cometh for thee

All ye bully-rooks with your buskin boots
Best ye go, best ye go
Outrun my bow
All ye bully-rooks with your buskin boots
Best ye go, best ye go, faster than mine arrow

Medieval Pumped up Kicks by
Hildegard von Blingin'

What's the best part?

redpoint5 06-10-2020 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 626008)
Thanx. I think it has layers. One is that it's a license to do anything that nobody comes back to stop you from doing. Tempered of course by countervailing forces.

I'd been thinking about changing it again:

What's the best part?

It's possible to do something so catastrophic it ruins the possibility of future time travel...

I had a coworker that called the Foster the People song, the gangster rap song. He didn't like it, but I thought the song was catchy. Depicting gross violence light-heartidly is artistic in itself and underscores how insidious a culture of materialism is. Envy is a deadly sin, but since that's all nonsense, I guess we can dismiss what our very eyes perceive. Maybe it's video games.

freebeard 06-10-2020 02:59 AM

Gangster lolis.
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Depicting gross violence light-heartidly is artistic in itself and underscores how insidious a culture of materialism is.
Folk music is full of murder ballads. Long Black Veil.
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It's possible to do something so catastrophic it ruins the possibility of future time travel...
Sounds like Roko's Balisk.
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Roko's basilisk - RationalWiki
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk
Roko's basilisk is a thought experiment about the potential risks involved in developing artificial intelligence.The premise is that an all-powerful artificial intelligence from the future could retroactively punish those who did not help bring about its existence, including those who merely knew about the possible development of such a being.

Roko's Basilisk: The most terrifying thought experiment of ...
https://slate.com/technology/2014/07...-all-time.html
Roko's Basilisk exists at the horizon where philosophical thought experiment blurs into urban legend. The Basilisk made its first appearance on the discussion board LessWrong, a gathering point ...

Roko's basilisk - Lesswrongwiki
https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Roko's_basilisk
Roko's basilisk is a thought experiment proposed in 2010 by the user Roko on the Less Wrong community blog. Roko used ideas in decision theory to argue that a sufficiently powerful AI agent would have an incentive to torture anyone who imagined the agent but didn't work to bring the agent into existence. The argument was called a "basilisk" because merely hearing the argument would ...
I don't even want to think about that. :)

edit: I do think bully-rooks is the best part.

2nd edit: The whole Ameno Dori Me meme is dark but there's a kyOresu cover

redneck 06-10-2020 03:59 AM

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This sums it up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRPo_cNfOM8


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redneck 06-10-2020 04:42 AM

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https://i.postimg.cc/rsTvRbnB/B9-FAE...08-EB47-DA.jpg

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freebeard 06-10-2020 01:31 PM

I'd contrast Cornell West with Thomas Sowell.

Youtube.com: THOMAS SOWELL - THE REAL HISTORY OF SLAVERY

freebeard 06-11-2020 03:59 PM

She talks fast [try 0.75x] but she's worth hearing out:
Becky's Business Guide For Black People (youtu.be)
Not embedded for language and décolletage.

jakobnev 06-11-2020 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr (Post 626000)
...not the same as handling a bunch of brainwashed idiots willing to pose as a thug and ruining their own communities while simultaneously trying to put the blame on someone else. That's why it's not so easy to compare Norwegian police with American police.

George Floyd was none of those things. (and neither were countless others)

freebeard 06-11-2020 05:25 PM

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George Floyd was none of those things. (and neither were countless others)
Some of them were fine people?

The person in question was one thing in his life*. And became something different after his death. Then that was hijacked by the [anti/not anti]fascists. ....the'brainwashed thugs'.


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*he was a thug living the thug life, just not a brainwashed one. Had enough Fentanyl in his blood that he probably wouldn't've survived the night with or without police (ham-handed ;)) intervention.

Fat Charlie 06-11-2020 08:54 PM

If someone knelt on a dog's neck for over 8 minutes, and the dog died, would you excuse it if the autopsy showed that the dog had heartworm and wouldn't have lived long anyway?

Underlying medical conditions don't change required behavior.

freebeard 06-11-2020 11:12 PM

Interesting appeal — to dog-love. "If it was a dog, you'd care". I'm immune. Did the dog do the heartworm recreationally?

Not trying to defend the guy held for murder.

Since I wrote that I've heard from a couple of sources, Neon Revolt and ???, that the Latin club where they both worked together was involved in counterfeit Chinese US dollar bills. But he was trying to pass a twenty. There is likely more to that story.

Fat Charlie 06-12-2020 09:57 AM

The dog is irrelevant, and that's the whole point.

If you put a dog under Chauvin's knee you can't bring up previous convictions, custody disputes, anecdotes from people from the same high school or any other irrelevancies that do nothing but distract attention from a cop kneeling on a guy's neck for 3 minutes after one of the other cops failed to detect a pulse.

When you can't distract with irrelevancies, you have to actually address the question of why Chauvin did that. Nobody took to the streets in support of fentanyl or counterfeiting.

freebeard 06-12-2020 01:18 PM

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The dog is irrelevant, and that's the whole point.
[snip]
When you can't distract with irrelevancies, you have to actually address the question of why Chauvin did that.
When you point a finger, there're four fingers pointing back at you. The proposition that the two worked together for years at a suspicious venue may not be relevant, but shouldn't be dismissed.

How about an opinion from someone with no dog in the hunt?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD9AToZJRz4

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 06-12-2020 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jakobnev (Post 626105)
George Floyd was none of those things

His criminal record shows otherwise.


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and neither were countless others
A large amount of the so-called "protesters" are. They're just using the death of someone else as an excuse to commit crimes, because they're either following a herd-effect or already had a desire to raise all hell and just needed a random excuse that would be endorsed by the media.

Fat Charlie 06-13-2020 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 626158)
How about an opinion from someone with no dog in the hunt?

I spent time as an armed occupier myself. Some of that time was doing what the MPs call "detainee operations". If I have a dog in this hunt, as it were, I'm coming from the viewpoint of the guy with a uniform, a weapon, a ton of buddies and the ability to literally write history by being the one to report the official version of the truth, with a ton of buddies to corroborate. Yet even with those duties and ability to act with impunity, I behaved the way I always had. Similarly to when people get old, they don't get crazy, they just become more fully themselves.

I was Chauvin. I was the armed guy in charge of the other armed guys, one who valued my guys' lives very highly; much more than I valued the locals' lives. I'm not ashamed of that- you can't have an army without "us" and "them" being baked into everyone from day one. And coming from a career that devalues the lives of everyone who doesn't wear the same uniform, I still can't come up with a story that makes Chauvin's actions reasonable. I can't even come up with one that makes them excusable.

All I'm asking is to examine Chauvin's actions. With Floyd in cuffs and on the ground, I can't come up with an excuse, much less a legitimate reason to kneel on his neck. I've never felt threatened by someone in restraints and I've never felt threatened even in a crowd as long as one of my guys had me covered. Killing or maiming a cuffed guy who hops up and charges you is child's play. Stopping a cuffed guy trying to hop up and get away is almost as easy, and would be much more entertaining. There are easier and safer (for the armed guy) ways to keep a cuffed guy on the ground than kneeling on his neck.

So let's stop focusing on backstories. I saw in the news that they had worked at the same place, saw that they had "butted heads" and saw that that person retracted his statement.

That's why I brought in the dog. Bringing Floyd's backstory into it is a distraction, because it's not relevant to the incident. Bringing Chauvin's backstory into it by introducing a relationship to Floyd takes it up to first degree murder because now you're making it look premeditated.

Let's simply look at what happened: Police responded to a report of a nonviolent crime. Four officers cuffed one man, and the senior officer knelt on the cuffed man's neck until well after that man died. The other officers audibly protested, but they did not have enough seniority to have enough confidence to protest more effectively. I agree they are legally liable for Floyd's death, but I am saddened by it. They were overawed by the officer who had been on the force for 19 years. They should have done better, but they deferred to seniority and are suffering for it.

But we aren't rookie Minneapolis cops at a crime scene with a 19 year veteran. It's clear why the new guys acted the way they did, but why did the 19 year veteran in charge of them act the way he did?


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