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viio 01-17-2012 05:19 PM

Tailgating a lorry/semi (modelled in CFD)
 
I conducted a little experiment this evening to see the aerodynamic effect of driving close to a large vehicle and where a good position to slipstream is.

The red/orange zone is where the air is at lower velocity and the idea would be to get the car in that zone so that the car is entering air at approx 20mph instead of 60mph (less resistance).

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...comparison.jpg

Looks like around 1 car length is the place to be at 60mph, however painful death is a risk and the grim reaper has to occupy your passenger seat.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...experiment.jpg

some_other_dave 01-17-2012 06:05 PM

It's a great way to wind up wearing the semi's rear bumper as a new facial implant. It'll look real stylish in a coffin...

Seriously, those trucks can stop a lot faster than you would think they can, and your reaction time is generally a lot more than 1 car length at 60 MPH.

Saving fuel is one thing, but doing it in an unsafe manner is entirely another.

-soD

UFO 01-17-2012 06:12 PM

That's an excellent representation of how close you need to draft to make any significant improvements in fuel mileage. Indeed, if anyone was contemplating this as an actual method to practice, there is next to zero reaction time for braking or obstacle avoidance.

aerohead 01-17-2012 06:28 PM

decapitation
 
Jane Mansfield lost her head this way.If you've grown tired of your cranium I recommend it.

viio 01-17-2012 06:29 PM

Yeah I probably should have added a disclaimer on there somewhere. I was just experimenting since I have the modeling software and the skills to use it. You can see the yellow section goes further back and would still allow some fuel saving while mitigating the risk of painful death.

botsapper 01-17-2012 06:41 PM

Deja vu over again, deja vu over again...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lttgT1XZVvE

...or go to 8:45 mark.

duane1 01-17-2012 06:42 PM

Quote:

Jane Mansfield lost her head this way
That's an urban legend...it was either her wig came off, or a portion of her scalp, not her whole head Jayne Mansfield - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

JasonG 01-17-2012 11:02 PM

Head, wig, scalp, doesn't matter if your dead.

Notice in the second simulation the drag appears worse than in the first one.

Sven7 01-17-2012 11:09 PM

Can you give us a % of Cd improvement at 1, 2 and 3 seconds behind the truck at 45, 60 and 75 mph? :)

Piwoslaw 01-18-2012 01:47 AM

Viio, could you do another round of simulations, with the truck's wheels removed? There is always a portion of air flowing under the truck which would slightly alter the wake's shape.

(Not that I'm going to be reading any truck's tags with my nose, just curious about the advantages of staying at 2-3 car lengths.)


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