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Tander 01-02-2012 09:50 PM

Teacher seeking advice: Building a small EV (2 person tadpole trike with pedals)
 
Hello,

I am thinking about building a small EV with my students next semester and I am looking for some advice. I currently own and ride an electric bike but am thinking about something that one maybe two people could ride in. I teach Tech. Ed at a suburban high school so we have a pretty good fabrication facility. Im looking for technical advice. I am thinking about a three wheel vehicle (one rear drive wheel and two front steering wheels) with a pedal assist so it could qualify as a motorized bicycle. Questions I have - 1)Is a vehicle like this feasible? 2) How do I determine the size of motor needed? 3)How do I determine the amount of voltage and current needed to operate the motor? 4) What type of batteries are best suited for a vehicle like this? 5) What type of controls do I need for a project like this?

These are just a few questions to start with. I am sure that if I atttempt this project many more questions will follow.
Thank you,
Tander

MPaulHolmes 01-03-2012 08:51 AM

A fellow teacher!!! Absolutely something like that is feasible. Hub motors are pretty powerful these days. You could stick one of those in one or both front wheels. If you want it to move pretty well, I would do at least 36 volts, and at least 20 amps. Power is volts*amps, and you would probably need around 1 HP for 2 people, which is 746 watts. 36*20 = 720 watts. YOu could use a cheaper motor if you can get a gearing thing to work like with a belt or chain. Sealed Lead Acid batteries would probably be the easiest and cheapest way to go.

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Lithium like "Headway" batteries would be better, but more expensive. Crap I have to go to school now to!

jamesqf 01-03-2012 12:20 PM

It's certainly something that can be done, and has been done. See here for some ideas: Twike - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ryland 01-03-2012 12:38 PM

I would go with one of the larger hub motors that can handle 72v so you can keep your wire size down, it will also keep your batteries happier.
Any idea on the goal for weight and speed?
Check out EVAlbum: Vehicle Types and Makes to see what others have done.

botsapper 01-03-2012 01:56 PM

A great project for the students! Share and let us follow your student build-up.
Choose an EV conversion kit:
Bike Power resource to get you the most out of your bicycle!
Tandem trikes, ready for conversion:
Utah Trikes - Tandem Recumbent Trikes
Makers of Four Wheel Bicycles and Trikes
Side-by-side trike:
Velomobiel.nl - DuoQuest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc6b94NdS6s
If you don't want a recumbent:
Mud Chaps: tandem tricycle...tadpole style?

Good luck!

NachtRitter 01-04-2012 03:31 AM

Great links, botsapper!! Thank you!


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