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Xist 09-15-2019 01:46 PM

Terrorist attack on Saudi oil
 
This is the worst attack in decades, including Saddam firing scuds. https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-o...ne-11568480576

Is there any electric car equivalent? What if ten drones blew up a solar or wind farm? Maybe if they took out a battery array, but would that be as disruptive or horrible to the environment?

freebeard 09-15-2019 03:00 PM

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Is there any electric car equivalent?
Kamikaze automatons?

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One source (coffee with you-know-who) is saying the attack was a pulled punch. If they were serious they'd have attack the desalination plants.

As for the vulnerability of oil vs electricity, that's a question for penetration testers. But electricity is fungible, it comes from varied sources.

oil pan 4 09-15-2019 04:16 PM

Buy an electric vehicle so the US can export more petroleum products, it's the American thing to do.

Fat Charlie 09-16-2019 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 606735)
If they were serious they'd have attack the desalination plants.

That's if you're serious about disrupting Saudi society and maybe forcing them to import more bottled water.

If you want to send price shocks around the world and make the Saudis look bad to their customers, you throw a cheap little attack (that everyone knows is scalable) at the oil.

jakobnev 09-16-2019 02:30 PM

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Terrorist attack on Saudi oil

Is it? Isn't a country's infrastructure a legitimate target in a war?

redpoint5 09-16-2019 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jakobnev (Post 606779)
Is it? Isn't a country's infrastructure a legitimate target in a war?

Is there a declared war? If you're implying it was not a terrorist attack, the definition of terrorism is an attack by a non-nation group without having declared war.

All targets are legitimate in war because anything supporting an existential threat must be destroyed as quickly as possible. Existence trumps any notions of fair play.

Fat Charlie 09-16-2019 03:45 PM

Words and definitions don't matter. Terrorists are anyone that "we" don't like. And if you disagree, you're a terrorist too.

redpoint5 09-16-2019 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Charlie (Post 606784)
Words and definitions don't matter. Terrorists are anyone that "we" don't like. And if you disagree, you're a terrorist too.

Sure they matter, which is why we're able to have discussions. We share a notion of the meaning of words well enough that we can understand each other.

The definition of terrorist doesn't include whether they are "good" or "bad", it simply defines what constitutes terrorism.

Xist 09-16-2019 04:34 PM

I am going to put Marianne Williamson in a cannon, fire her at them, and she will love them to death.

Fat Charlie 09-16-2019 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by redpoint5 (Post 606785)
Sure they matter...

Sorry, the covfefe got in the way.


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