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redpoint5 08-18-2017 01:54 AM

A total eclipse of the US
 
I'll start this thread to talk about the eclipse.

A few days ago I realized I had to be in Medford for work Friday (a few hours from now). It's a 5hr drive under normal conditions, but not wanting to risk the agony of traffic, I booked a flight. How horrible am I for hoping that Saturday morning i-5 traffic is a nightmare to justify my decision to fly?

Anyhow, I'll be heading to my parent's farm in Salem on Sunday for a pre-eclipse party, camping out, and then photographing the thing Monday morning. I wish I had one of those 360 degree cameras to capture the event. Even better, a drone.

Hey Freebeard- you watching from home, or are you traveling somewhere?

What does everyone else have planned?

Gasoline Fumes 08-18-2017 05:51 AM

It's something like 72% of a total eclipse where I am. I will be attempting to photograph the eclipse through a #10 welding shade. Seems to work fine for normal sun photos.

vskid3 08-18-2017 12:36 PM

My parents moved a little north of Idaho Falls, ID last year, so they're almost right in the middle of the totality. My wife and I will be heading up Saturday night or Sunday morning, whichever looks better for traffic.

freebeard 08-18-2017 12:41 PM

I don't like giving out clues to my person or whereabouts on Internet, but what the hey — this is a twice in a lifetime opportunity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perrydale,_Oregon

My son shall bring his Parrot drone, and my niece is having a crew down from Potland that will bring their electric guitars. My brother that lives [literally] in the Sea of Cortez will be there. The two of us saw the last one at the Stonehenge replica at Maryhill, WA.

Xist 08-18-2017 04:31 PM

How many bricks would it take to make your own Stonehenge replica? :)

I keep wondering the cheapest way to make a long pinhole camera. If I tacked together four 2x4s that are twelve feet long, how large would the image be if it is actually from a pinhole?

freebeard 08-18-2017 05:43 PM

It's easier if you start with car bodies:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...rs%2C_2016.jpg

Please state you question in the form of a search query
https://duckduckgo.com/html?q=solar%...focal%20length

Xist 08-19-2017 12:48 AM

If I knew the right terminology I would have my answer already.

gone-ot 08-19-2017 01:40 PM

Paraphrasing the Charlie Rose quote: "Knowing where to look is 95-percent of getting the right answer."

Xist 08-19-2017 03:24 PM

Much of the reason I mentioned it was hoping someone would have the information or at least the right keywords.

freebeard 08-19-2017 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Xist
If I knew the right terminology I would have my answer already.

So you're saying you didn't click the helpful link? Something against DuckDuckGo?

Old Tele man — Have a gander at Goethe's Color Theory

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Goethe's book provides a catalogue of how colour is perceived in a wide variety of circumstances, and considers Isaac Newton's observations to be special cases. Unlike Newton, Goethe's concern was not so much with the analytic treatment of colour, as with the qualities of how phenomena are perceived. Philosophers have come to understand the distinction between the optical spectrum, as observed by Newton, and the phenomenon of human colour perception as presented by Goethe—a subject analyzed at length by Wittgenstein in his comments on Goethe's theory in Remarks on Colour.

RedDevil 08-19-2017 05:18 PM

For a contemporary monument I could erect a phonehenge from my drawers and garage box obsoletes, especially if all the fixed line appendages count in.

EDIT
Not an original idea alas, even if it used phone boxes rather than phones:
http://www.odditycentral.com/wp-cont...onehenge-4.jpghttp://www.odditycentral.com/pics/stonehenge-replica-at-freestyle-music-park.html

Vman455 08-19-2017 05:19 PM

I think I'll drive to Carbondale--where the eclipse has the longest duration, a little more than 2'40"--late Sunday night. Hopefully not so much traffic then. My plan is to camp in the car wherever. I figure if I don't go, looking back in a year I'll wish I had.

darcane 08-21-2017 01:41 PM

Anyone able to get decent pictures?

I stayed near Seattle (~92% eclipse). Still a very cool experience.

freebeard 08-21-2017 09:25 PM

It's like horse-shoes.

OTOH my camera is hanging on a hook right where I left it. :(

It turns out I've seen three. I forgot the second one. We drove to Nevada and pulled off to a rest stop and looked through some glasses. Then we went to the car museum in Reno and I forgot all about the eclipse.

We didn't see ground waves this time, but I did see a constellation of little mini pin-hole eclipses on the ground under a tree. It's really hard to capture the experience in pictures; maybe the corona.

My son did an orbit of beautiful downtown P-dale with his Mavic drone during totality, maybe I can get a still-frame from that. That place is a trip. We took a walk an half-block down the other side of the intersection, and the locals stopped three time to inquire who we were and what we were up to. The only crime there is people blowing through the 25mph zone at 70.

Traffic was brutal, I gave up on checking my mileage.

Gasoline Fumes 08-22-2017 12:02 AM

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I got some decent photos using a #10 welding shade. And a Canon DSLR with a 28-300mm lens.

Natalya 08-22-2017 12:08 AM

Traffic was terrible heading towards it. I crossed into the path of totality near the Georgia-South Carolina border only a few minutes before the eclipse began. A couple miles further in, very close to SC, when the sun was almost 50% obscured I pulled over at a gas station. There were at least 100 people in the parking lot all looking at it.

I didn't have the dumb glasses, so I did the pinhole box trick and watched the sun sliver disappear. Totality was weird, you could see some stars, and the sky was purple, pink, and orange. Birds stopped chirping, crickets started up.

While it was total you could look straight at it without anything to protect your eyes. The corona was visible, a gleaming halo around a black disk, it was ghastly in appearance. Where I was there was about 45 seconds of totality, I wasn't far north-east enough for the full duration.

I was really surprised when the first sliver of light came back through by how powerful the little speck of light was, you couldn't look at the tiniest sliver without hurting your eyes. I did see the "waves" on the ground, they looked like the rippling texture of the surface of the sun that you see in those NASA photos of the sun.

I have like an emotional disposition, I teared up a bit when it happened and was kind-of moved by it for the rest of the day.

fusion210 08-22-2017 02:05 AM

Stayed at home in the 98% coverage zone. It was amazing how much light there was on the ground. Used a welding mask with double #10 shade lenses to peek. Did the whole hole in cardboard to see the progression.

To echo what was said, birds stopped chirping, crickets started chirping, but also the temperature drop was pretty cool.

rmay635703 08-22-2017 01:26 PM

Up here you could barely tell anything was happening,
Peaked at about 80% lots of clouds, a little dimmer but you would hardly know sun was still bright when the clouds would clear.

Wisconsin hasn't seen totality since the 1300's ;(

Xist 08-22-2017 02:50 PM

I looked at the DuckDuckGo link, but I am not familiar with that search engine, and I did not have any idea how to narrow down the search.

My sister was apparently freaking out about non-hippies de-hippifying her part of Oregon. Page was supposed to have the best view of the eclipse, but with $1.07 to my name, I did not feel like trying to cobble together anything, and when I looked, I could barely tell where the sun was behind the clouds. A teacher gave me a pair of glasses, but I could not see the sun through them. They definitely protected my eyes, though.

What is wrong with this picture? https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/im...EeeQKiqfLYCElg

The President stared down the sun until it hid behind the moon. Apparently those cool glasses are for people too cool to wear them properly.

darcane 08-22-2017 06:18 PM

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I included a pic I took of a tree's shadow and a coworker's picture (cell-phone + cheap eclipse glasses in front of it). This caused some blur in the photo, it was much narrower when viewing the eclipse.

We had perfect clear skies for an unobstructed view of the eclipse. It wasn't anywhere near as dark as totality would be, but it was similar to dusk and dropped 7-8 degrees F.

me and my metro 08-22-2017 08:50 PM

We went to Madras, Oregon with 100,000 new friends. My sister and her husband drove up from San Diego with the scopes and camera gear. When they get home and massage the pictures with his computer program, I will post the diamond ring and corona shots. Next for us is Waco, TX in April 2024.

redpoint5 08-22-2017 09:47 PM

I heard Madras was impossible to leave post-eclipse. When did you leave, and how long did it take to travel out?

vskid3 08-22-2017 09:59 PM

Traffic on I-15 going to Idaho Sunday morning was heavy, but stayed around the speed limit most of the way. Almost immediately after the eclipse, going from Idaho Falls, ID to the SLC, UT area took about 2-2.5x the normal time and continued for the rest of the day (I went home today, traffic wasn't quite as heavy as going).

The eclipse was amazing. The way the darkness fell was eerie, it wasn't like cloud cover or a sunset, it was more like just turning down the brightness of a screen. Some of us got on the roof right before the totality and had a great view of the 360° twilight at the horizon. The corona peaking from behind the moon was awesome, few pictures capture how it actually looks and I haven't seen any that truly capture its magnificence. It felt like something out of a sci-fi movie; I half expected an alien attack. Totality lasted about 2:13 where I was and not a cloud in the sky. We saw shadow bands before and after. They didn't look like snakes like we'd heard, but they were pretty cool looking.

I didn't think I'd be one who would go crazy over chasing them, but now I think I'll give it a good effort to get to the one in 2024. I'll just stare at the corona next time.

freebeard 08-23-2017 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Xist
The President stared down the sun until it hid behind the moon.

Oh, just stop. He glanced up for a second, stepped back into the shade of a column and put on the glasses and then stood with his wife and watched for a minute.

I wanted the full eclipse experience and there wasn't any traffic on the way up the day before, so I went through downtown Corvallis instead of retracing my original route. That added 30-45 minutes; but then traffic was backed up as well in Harrisburg. It took longer to get past the cement plant than it did downtown Corvallis. It was all headed South and there was nothing almost all the way to I-5. But here was a steady stream of traffic west from I-5 to North Coburg Road and it grid-locked at the intersection North of town.

The only explanation I heard was the Brownsville Music Festival that saw 15,000 people a day, but that ended on the 18th. :confused:

One of my favorite Youtube comentators put on a colander and went all Pastafarian about people getting excited about the eclipse. But I think it brings people face-to-face with primordial reality, and people crave that.

What do you think of this:

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...rppd0rh0e1.jpg
Gizmodo: Today's Solar Eclipse Left a Path of Nightmarish Traffic in Its Wake

The image is credited to Google Maps/Gizmodo; but shows the path of the totality stretching from Seattle to Portland. Fake news. Sad.

me and my metro 08-23-2017 09:55 AM

My sister took back roads to Redmond which is 20 miles South of Madras. She left at 6PM and it took about an hour. We left at 8AM on Tuesday and did not have any traffic issues. We drove South on 97 to Redmond and West on 20 to the valley.

My sister drove to K Falls on Tuesday and it took 5 1/2 hours due to traffic headed back to Cali. This is probably about an hour longer than normal for that drive.

ChopStix 08-23-2017 06:26 PM

I got some good pictures.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Vqgq-Bk8A

freebeard 08-23-2017 07:31 PM

Do you know why it starts at 5 o'clock travels clockwise to the totality at 2 o'clock and then finishes back at 5 o'clock?

It turns out the Solar System is [declared] 'racist' by The Atlantic. https://duckduckgo.com/html?q=racist%20eclipse

Xist 08-24-2017 09:33 AM

I forgot which news sources had headlines effectively saying "Haha! The President is an idiot! He doesn't know better than to look at the sun!" I just restated what I read.

I have hardly kept up on current events since changing jobs. I do not discuss them with kids K - 2. I killed time one day at work reading Dogo News and tried to share something interesting with my supervisor and she said she did not want to hear about current events.

I really think Dogo is different, but whatever.

Doesn't Aerohead live somewhere near Waco? Ecomodder meetup 2024! :)

Hopefully by then I will be able to figure out some big pinhole camera or something better.

Does anyone else have a grey text box? It kind of looks cool, but I like contrast!

freebeard 08-24-2017 10:46 AM

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I forgot which news sources had headlines effectively saying "Haha! The President is an idiot! He doesn't know better than to look at the sun!" I just restated what I read.

I have hardly kept up on current events since changing jobs.
They all did. They count on people only reading the headlines.I'm fortunate in being able to go a little deeper. I actually watch 16 contiguous minutes on CNN (via Youtube), of all places.

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I do not discuss them with kids K - 2. I killed time one day at work reading Dogo News and tried to share something interesting with my supervisor and she said she did not want to hear about current events.
Are you familiar with Timothy Leary's theory of the four terrestrial circuits and four extraterrestrial circuits in the human brain? At K-2 they only have the third circuit turned on. Your supervisor on the other hand has no excuse, but I'm surrounded by people like that too.

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I really think Dogo is different, but whatever.
I found out that Monsters Vs. Aliens: Mutant Pumpkins From Outer Space was released in 2009. https://www.dogomovies.com/

gumby79 08-24-2017 11:40 AM

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Rexburg, ID near the center of the line of totality . Went down on Friday to get enough space for the clan coming from ,other parts of the less wild west 19 in all. It was amazing ive had 3 partial eclipses in my life this was my first full. Worth the effort,yes.
Trafic was a problem going east on US20 took 6hrs to get to Yellowstone national park less than 100 mi +3hr layover to help a stranded motorist(starter wet the bed , he was using manual start stop ). The problem ,according to a stater that stoped to help, was the 3 1 mi long passing lains and poor etiquette.

+1 on an ecomodder eclipse gathering

redpoint5 08-24-2017 12:59 PM

From my parent's farm in Salem, OR.

http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-re...6-eclipse1.jpg

http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-re...7-eclipse2.jpg

http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-re...8-eclipse3.jpg

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http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-re...0-eclipse5.jpg

http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-re...1-eclipse6.jpg

http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-re...2-eclipse7.jpg

freebeard 08-24-2017 02:24 PM

The red fringing from 7 to 8 o'clock is consistent with Goethe's Color Theory.

Blow that part up and see if you can see Moon mountaintops.

Xist 08-25-2017 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 548136)
They all did. They count on people only reading the headlines.I'm fortunate in being able to go a little deeper. I actually watch 16 contiguous minutes on CNN (via Youtube), of all places.[/URL]

They only count on them reading headlines before clicking or before spreading gossip? I believe my phone mentioned The President. We finally got the Internet installed two days ago and we did not have much data left.

I really should have read a book.

[QUOTE=freebeard;548136]Are you familiar with Timothy Leary's theory of the four terrestrial circuits and four extraterrestrial circuits in the human brain? At K-2 they only have the third circuit turned on. Your supervisor on the other hand has no excuse, but I'm surrounded by people like that too.

I am not familiar with all of those words, so that is something for me to research. My supervisor mentioned a very specific time that she and her son started avoiding current events.

It was during the election.

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 548136)
I found out that Monsters Vs. Aliens: Mutant Pumpkins From Outer Space was released in 2009. https://www.dogomovies.com/

Did you enjoy that? I loved the original. "Halloween television special" was almost as much of a spoiler as Wikipedia having the entire plot.

redpoint5 08-25-2017 08:41 PM

I know quite a few people who said they would get a 95% eclipse and were happy to see that rather than travel to see totality. I'd say if you only got 95% of an eclipse, then you missed 95% of the spectacle.

Concerning ignoring current news, I stopped about 8 years ago. No idea what's going on.

freebeard 08-25-2017 10:13 PM

It's like the eye of a hurricane, 'totally' different.

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They only count on them reading headlines before clicking or before spreading gossip?
No. "They count on them only..."

Here's Wikipedia on the 8-circuit brain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8-Circ..._Consciousness

I was this way in 1971:
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Chorus:
Blow up your TV throw away your paper
Go to the country, build you a home
Plant a little garden, eat a lot of peaches
Try an find Jesus on your own
Spanish Pipedream (AKA Blow Up Your TV) © John Prine

But the turning of the Mayan calendar has changed everything. The world was under the hegemon of the Moloch-worshipping elites; but then the ancient Egyptian god of chaos, Kek, awoke and spoke through /pol.

It's both awesome and terrifying. It'd be a shame to miss it.
________

Monsters Vs. Aliens has just come onto my radar. Better than Monster Trucks? It can't be better than Cowboys & Aliens.

Daschicken 08-26-2017 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by redpoint5 (Post 548148)

Now those are some friggin cool photos! I was working at the time of the eclispse :( and checked it out every few minutes at the peak. I missed the best part though. I think I was in a 99% area. The best I saw is pretty much the photo in the quote. Still pretty cool, but just not the same.

Fat Charlie 08-28-2017 12:17 PM

We were in Hopkinsville, KY. Just got home yesterday. We were about a dozen miles from the point of greatest eclipse, giving us 2:40.1 of totality. It was simply amazing, and nowhere near long enough.

We had reworked an already scheduled weeklong camping trip to make an eclipse trip with camping at the end. Before and after the eclipse we were staying near Mammoth Cave, and had planned to leave there at 4:00 am to get to Hopkinsville around 6:00. But everyone we talked to- in the campground, at the park or in stores, was going to Hopkinsville too. So we left at 3:00.

No worries, we got there at 5:00, well ahead of any crowd. We had bought a ticket for Ruff Park, so we knew where we were going, we knew we'd be able to park, etc. We were the second car through when they opened the gate. We found our spot, set up chairs and a tent, then got my wife's 8" scope set up and worked on getting the camera mounted. Then we suffered through being in the South in August.

The camera was a no-go, don't ask me why. Not having it mounted actually helped- we could check out the whole thing without trying to stand where we could look through the camera, and lots of people in the area came by to see it through the scope. We got good at taking phone pics through the scope, too. She got a really good one during totality, but no picture I've seen comes even close to showing how beautiful it was.

When it was over we set the kids up in the park's pavillion and cooked burgers and dogs on our tabletop grill, finally leaving around 4:00. The Hopkinsville traffic had settled down a lot, but I-65 was brutal. It took us 4 hours to make the 2 hour trip back to Mammoth cave.

Two solid days of driving later, we made it home just in time to repack the van from the "camping in cabins with a huge telescope" load plan to the "camping in our pop-up with two kayaks" load plan. And our regularly scheduled week with friends up at the lake was shortened to 3 days.

Now if the kids had actually let us relax during those 3 days... Hell of a trip.

freebeard 08-28-2017 01:59 PM

Yesterday evening I saw a red ball low in the sky to the West. My first thought was "a full Moon so soon after the eclipse?".

But it was the Sun through wildfire smoke on the horizon.

Xist 08-28-2017 02:33 PM

I see people saying "Kek," but they must refer to something different.

Someone posted a picture of using binoculars to project the eclipse onto a paper. Would a telescope have worked? What about an overhead projector?

redpoint5 08-28-2017 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 548384)
Yesterday evening I saw a red ball low in the sky to the West. My first thought was "a full Moon so soon after the eclipse?".

But it was the Sun through wildfire smoke on the horizon.

Heh, my wife once commented that "the moon is very bright today". It was 2pm and the sun was struggling to get through the clouds and fog.


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