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Arragonis 11-15-2011 04:30 AM

UK Fuel Prices Reduce Consumption - BBC
 
The cost of fuel has been debated before. uk.gov is due to impose an extra 2-3p a litre (~15-18p an imp. gallon) in tax - which will get amplified by an extra 20% on top of that in VAT - yes we pay sales tax on the tax already imposed, ain't democracy great ;)

BBC News - How are motorists saving fuel?

A petition and movement has been started to try and get the government ro reduce the tax or at least stabilise prices, a debate is due today. The tips are interesting though.

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Maintenance:

Regular servicing to maintain engine efficiency
Check tyre pressures regularly

Before you go:

Lose weight - empty the boot
Streamline - roof racks and boxes
Don't get lost - plan unfamiliar journeys
Combine short trips - cold starts are inefficient
Consider alternatives like walking or cycling

On the way:

Don't start the engine until you're ready to go
Drive smoothly, accelerate gently, anticipate
Decelerate smoothly by releasing the accelerator in time, leaving the car in gear
Rolling - keep the car moving if possible
Change gear without labouring engine - change up at 2,500 rpm in a petrol car
Cut down on the air-con
Turn off heaters, demisters, headlights
Stick to the speed limit
In a queue, turn the engine off if it looks like you could be waiting for more than three minutes

Source: AA Driving School

jakobnev 11-15-2011 05:32 AM

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Change gear without labouring engine - change up at 2,500 rpm in a petrol car
How would you translate that into non-english english?

tjts1 11-15-2011 10:43 AM

No wonder they don't let you guys have guns. It would be politician hunting season if they tried that over here.

dcb 11-15-2011 11:24 AM

It would be, cuz the pinko commies here who drive huge cars on lots of subsidized gas are completely irrational, have sense of entitlement to cheap gas.

TJ, you might want to review the Smith Act before advocating/condoning/suggesting shooting people in government.

Smith Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

tjts1 11-15-2011 11:54 AM

"Advocating/condoning/suggesting shooting people in government"? Where did you read that? Be specific.
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Prosecutions continued under the Smith Act until a series of United States Supreme Court decisions in 1957 reversed a number of convictions so obtained as unconstitutional.
Did you bother to read your own link?

You're right about one thing. Whoever is holding the gun has a sense of entitlement. Thats why their government is taxing the crap out of its citizens.

Arragonis 11-15-2011 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jakobnev (Post 270422)
How would you translate that into non-english english?

Lugging. Although with modern engine management systems this is quite hard - its either running or you have stalled. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by tjts1 (Post 270431)
No wonder they don't let you guys have guns. It would be politician hunting season if they tried that over here.

I'm happy with people not having the need to carry guns regularly, thats a different debate - this one is about fuel.

Altough yes, our politicians are worthy of a good shoeing with very few exceptions.

Piwoslaw 11-15-2011 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Arragonis (Post 270420)
A petition and movement has been started to try and get the government ro reduce the tax or at least stabilise prices, a debate is due today.

Not all West-Atlanticers fetch a gun and shoot politicians when fuel prices go up - some start praying for cheaper gas.
Of course, then there are the few who shut up and ecomod their cars. But who cares about those geeks anyway?

Arragonis 11-15-2011 04:28 PM

To get the politics out of the way - we spend a lot of the fuel duty on other stuff, like the NHS. I'm OK with that choice, although it could be spent better.

That tapped when people are struggling it seems wrong to kick them more. And people are struggling.

I think the Beeb had managed to get the tips reasonably clear for a change, probably because they asked someone else ;)

dcb 11-15-2011 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tjts1 (Post 270441)
"Advocating/condoning/suggesting shooting people in government"?
Where did you read that? Be specific.

There aren't many words to choose from here TJ,
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Originally Posted by tjts1 (Post 270431)
No wonder they don't let you guys have guns. It would be politician hunting season if they tried that over here.

hunting politicians with guns over matters of policy could easily be interpreted as advocating the forceful overthrow of government. And you will be cheezing off guys who are really nuts about guns, have access to more weaponry than you or I dreamed of. Thanks in no small part to my taxes.

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Originally Posted by tjts1 (Post 270441)
Did you bother to read your own link?

"The statute has not been repealed."
Do you bother to stop molesting little boys?

jamesqf 11-16-2011 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dcb (Post 270507)
...hunting politicians with guns over matters of policy could easily be interpreted as advocating the forceful overthrow of government.

You might want to consider the difference between advocating something (e.g. "Let's go shoot all the politicians") and simply stating that something is likely to happen.


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