Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Aerodynamics
Register Now
 Register Now

Now available from EcoModder: ScanGauge II fuel economy gauge.  Click for details.  

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 03-17-2008, 09:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: snohomish
Posts: 10
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
cd figures (where to find?)

Does anyone know where one can get the cd for existing cars? For example, what is the drag for the opel gt, or the crx. Both seem rather streamlined, and both are available for a reasonable sum. They certainly would seem to be a better start than many others.

Thanks,

Watson


(Support Ecomodder.com & get rid of these annoying ads!)      
 
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2008, 09:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 204

- - '010 Prius III w/Navi
Thanks: 4
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
Hi All,

Here is a start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automob...g_coefficients
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2008, 09:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
Hypermiler
 
brucepick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Eastern CT, USA
Posts: 1,077

Lean Burn Civic - '97 Civic HX
Team Honda
90 day: 51.96 mpg (US)
Thanks: 78
Thanked 87 Times in 63 Posts
http://www.mayfco.com/tbls.htm

'Index to Coefficient of Drag for Many Vehicles
Plus Index to Horsepower vs Speed Curves'

Enjoy.
Not every car is in there but there's a lot.

Also you can find c/d for SOME cars at cars.com and autos.com under "research cars", under specifications.
__________________
Check your tire pressure - keep it up !!

We've learned that diet has a closer relationship to cancer than we ever thought. Please see this Wikipedia article on The China Study.

Driving Lean Burn '97 Civic HX, lotsa mods by now! '89 Volvo 240 is semi-retired. I did love that car though!
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2008, 10:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 204

- - '010 Prius III w/Navi
Thanks: 4
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
And This: http://www.mayfco.com/tbls.htm
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2008, 10:38 PM   #5 (permalink)
Giant Moving Eco-Wall
 
DifferentPointofView's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: The Dale, IL (or A-Dale)
Posts: 1,120

The Jeep! - '95 Grand Cherokee ZJ Laredo
90 day: 23.75 mpg (US)

The Caliber - '07 Caliber R/T
90 day: 30.6 mpg (US)

The 'Scort - '98 Escort LX
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
The Caliber has the CdA in the owners manual.

I found out the other day that, my Jeep is over 5000lbs!!!.
__________________


Yea.. I drive a Jeep and I'm on a fuel economy site, but you just wouldn't understand... "It's a Jeep thing!" *Jeep Wave*

Did I Use Too Many Abbreviations? Here's The Abbreviations List
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2008, 01:13 AM   #6 (permalink)
Liberti
 
LostCause's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: California
Posts: 504

Thunderbird - '96 Thunderbird
90 day: 27.75 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by DifferentPointofView View Post
I found out the other day that, my Jeep is over 5000lbs!!!.
I doubt that. Your GVWR is probably 5000lbs (i.e. the max weight you car is certified to operate at).

Your empty weight is probably 1000-1500lbs less then that figure. I freaked out a bit when I saw my car weighed 4500lb+, until I realized that was GVWR. I didn't feel much better when I learned it was really ~3500lbs...

- LostCause
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2008, 04:51 PM   #7 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 3,975
Thanks: 1,179
Thanked 807 Times in 469 Posts
Cds

The 1st generation CRX was given a Cd of 0.32 by HONDA.Later,VW found it to have a CD 0.35.The MITI tunnel had a buoyancy issue that has subsequently been addressed.The 2nd generation CRX HF model is given by HONDA as Cd 0.29.I don't have any data that disputes HONDA's number.As for the GM,Opel,GT ,it's listed in Hucho's book.I don't have that with me.If I could trust my memory,I'd say the GT had Cd 0.45.Perhaps another member is at the computer with the book handy.I'll look when I get home.A friend in college had an Opel,and I remember how I thought the sides and underside were quite" dirty",aerodynamically.Pretty good for late 1960s cars mind you,but bested today by any modern econobox.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2008, 03:20 PM   #8 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 3,975
Thanks: 1,179
Thanked 807 Times in 469 Posts
I goofed! no Cd for Opel GT

Whoops! I went home and grabbed Hucho's book.No mention of little Opel,sorry! Cd 0.45 may not be far off though,as 1968 Corvette Stingray is given Cd0.45,and Opel shares similar architecture,only smaller frontal area.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2008, 12:10 AM   #9 (permalink)
Cd
Ultimate Fail
 
Cd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Austin,Texas
Posts: 1,926
Thanks: 752
Thanked 135 Times in 84 Posts
Does anyone here know for certain ( no guesses ) the .Cd of a 1954 Studebaker ( The ones that have been used at Bonneville forever )

I''ve been trying to find that info. for a while now.
__________________
"You don't fail until you give up. You learn, and move on." - Christ

" Hypermiling is not going slow, it's driving with more intelligence." - UFO
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2008, 12:23 AM   #10 (permalink)
Cd
Ultimate Fail
 
Cd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Austin,Texas
Posts: 1,926
Thanks: 752
Thanked 135 Times in 84 Posts
So what is the .Cd on a 5th generation Civic hatchback ?
Road and Track says in their review of the then new car that the sedan posted a .32 while the hatchback posted a .31 " with the VX model posting a slightly smaller figure due to a small underbody fairing "

I have to question the data because a very similar shaped Ford Focus hatchback has a very large .36.

We have all seen the quote on the Insight write up about the Insight having a .Cd so much better that a Civic hatch at .36 ( which matches the Focus, so is more believable than .31 )
But I wonder if that .36 figure was for the Civic hatch that was out at the time - the sixth generation hatch.

How could the figure fluctuate that much ( And which information can be trusted ? )


(Support Ecomodder.com & get rid of these annoying ads!)      
 
__________________
"You don't fail until you give up. You learn, and move on." - Christ

" Hypermiling is not going slow, it's driving with more intelligence." - UFO
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread

Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
German experimentation with low Cd automobiles in the 1930's basjoos Aerodynamics 125 04-20-2012 10:48 AM
Info & video - Opel Calibra - Cd 0.26 MetroMPG Aerodynamics 24 08-20-2009 02:58 PM
Mercedes modded C-class: Cd 0.25. Up 7.5 mpg over regular model (with other mods). MetroMPG Aerodynamics 19 07-19-2009 02:58 PM
Streamlining conundrum: lowering Cd without raising gearing may be problematic MetroMPG Aerodynamics 10 02-17-2008 07:41 AM
If all the vehicles on the road were ultra-low Cd.... basjoos EcoModding Central 10 01-07-2008 08:34 PM




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com