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Old 01-09-2012, 12:30 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Why not just look at data from a test to settle this debate.

http://aerade.cranfield.ac.uk/ara/1947/naca-tn-1367.pdf

Okay, they don't touch fuel economy directly but they do show power output increases when you have only 7 psia in the exhaust vs 14.7psia


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Old 01-09-2012, 01:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
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If you look at figure 4 it has the inlet manifold at 30 inches of mercury which is about 14.7 psia or about atmospheric presure.
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In the graphs it looks like power increases about three times as much as charge air flow. *cue dramatic music*


Ecky should definitely dust off his shop vac and duct tape.
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I believe what I have right now is ~2.5" pipe to a low-restriction muffler. 2.5" is definitely not optimal, does anyone know the stock pipe size for an Integra LS/GS/DA?

Anyhow, neither attaching the vac nor restricting the exhaust to ~1/4 size seemed to do anything to my idle speed, and I'm going to need a friend if I want to test at higher rpms. One unexpected side effect was that with the vac attached, the exhaust went completely silent.

Will report back after I test.
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Interesting concept similar to what my co-worker thought of. He refered to it as the air sprayer effect, basically paint is pulled up when air pressure is passed over a straw creating a vacuum on the straw. Since the highest airflow is going over the car, having the end of the exhaust pipe end in the direction of the top air flow of the car and just slightly into the air flow would create enough vacuum with out slowing the car down more than the benefit.

If you have a way to check instant MPG, couldn't you throw an extra battery + inverter (need a higher grade one for motors) in the trunk, hook all the hosese etc, and check MPG change at steady speed with vac on/off with out changing any draw on the engine etc? Really would love to see some results . I could see those with the alt delete adding more batteries for a vacuum lol.
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A high enough vacuum might act as a reverse turbo of sorts, but, as someone has mentioned, where do you get this vacuum from?


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