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Old 10-10-2017, 01:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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New mail truck prototype called electric but more like a Volt

https://www.trucks.com/2017/10/09/sp..._medium=social

I think this is a good compromise, the current trucks spend forever idling and starting and stopping. So if it looks like range is going to be a problem on a longer driving route, they can run the hopefully more efficient generator at peak efficiency to make it through the day.

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Old 10-10-2017, 03:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Wonder if AAA™ provides 15-minutes of quick recharge for them too (wink,wink)?
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Luckily our old fleet is so problematic we have the world's most experienced breakdown response people already employed in house.
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The USPS has said that half of the prototypes “will feature hybrid and new technologies, including alternative fuel capabilities.”
Really? Only half? Mail trucks are some of the best examples of vehicles that would benefit from being hybrids or electric.
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Old 10-11-2017, 03:33 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Would be interesting to say the least if Toyota developed a prototype for that next-generation mail van project. And they could easily make hybrid ones resorting mostly to off-the-shelf components.
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Toyota didn't even submit a proposal. If I remeber right the final product has to be under $30,000. Probably not much profit in that, Grumman who made the last crop probably did it more as a kickback for making billions off the F14 Tomcat.
I can almost guarantee when they say 50% hybrid or alternate fuels they will count E85 capable as an "alternate fuel". At least that is how they are counting the current Dodge Grand Caravans we are getting.
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Back to the Future

Last time they did this was during the Carter Administration. After a month of prototype torture-testing, the Grumman KurbWatt was appointed winner, but the contract was modified from electric to the slightly bigger and ICE'd LLV after delivery of the first 50 fleet validation vehicles (which followed 12 prototypes) I have one of the fleet validators, Chassis #000054. It's an awesome little 3/4 ton step van and gets more car show attention than any other EV.

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Makes one wonder WHY they (USPS) don't simply contract to make the already designed & developed KurbiWatt vehicles and $AVE money?
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Well, I can't blame 'em for wanting something slightly more modern, and the riveted aluminum unibody might be too spendy to build today.
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I think now is a great time to start replacing them. Hybrid technology has more than proven itself. PHEVs are well on their way to proving themselves as well. The vehicle's use makes a HEV or PHEV or even EV quite ideal.

The cost to keep the current fleet running are insane. According to wikipedia...

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In fiscal year 2009, the USPS spent $524 million to repair its fleet of Grumman LLVs...
That is a lot of dough.

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