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Old 07-31-2009, 06:08 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I noticed this in images, as well.... Me thinks: Easy MPG gains for when the "real competition" (i.e. Prius) shows up.

Genius biz practice, but probably not very ecologically intelligent. If you could have just gotten the better MPG's earlier, you wouldn't have had the competition to begin with.


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Old 07-31-2009, 09:29 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I want an FCX. Wahh.

I agree with extending the CVT, and reprogramming the control so that it allows a user selectable "economy" or "performance" profile, within constraints. The problem is that most people will buy it for "economy" but "forget" to take it off "performance" until the "cost of ownership" catches up with their "wallet".

If I were to get an Insight, it would be a 1st gen only.
I totally agree with this. Saturn S-Series automatic trannies had an on/off button for economy/performance modes. IMO, this option should be as ubiquitous as MPG gauges.

More bad news for the Insight :

Honda's Insight hybrid stalls in sales race with Toyota's Prius - Los Angeles Times
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When it debuted in March, Honda Motor Corp.'s retooled Insight hybrid looked to be the first serious challenger to the Prius, Toyota Motor Corp.'s ecological wunder-car. Graced with a low price, 40-mpg-plus fuel economy and the Japanese automaker's reputation for quality, the Insight even looked like the Prius.

Instead, all the Insight has delivered is a flurry of bad reviews and four months of dismal sales capped by a thorough battering at the hands of the Prius, whose third generation was launched in the U.S. last month. Increasingly, the Insight is looking like the latest in a series of hybrid frustrations for Honda.
On the plus side, it might make 2nd gen Insights more affordable for others.

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Old 07-31-2009, 09:43 PM   #13 (permalink)
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But I want a 1st gen!
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Old 07-31-2009, 10:16 PM   #14 (permalink)
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But I want a 1st gen!
Ahhhh, but if more people focus on a bargain-basement 2nd gen, maybe they'll forget about the 1st gen, and you'll be able to get one for a better $.

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Old 07-31-2009, 10:38 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Fine... You win. (Which, apparently, means I might also win.) Ironic, eh?


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