Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Instrumentation
Register Now
 Register Now

Now available from EcoModder: ScanGauge II fuel economy gauge.  Click for details.  

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 02-27-2010, 02:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: boise id
Posts: 63

Red Wrangler - '98 Wrangler Sport
90 day: 17.15 mpg (US)

Wife's car - '01 Sentra GXE
90 day: 30.43 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Partial fillups with Scangauge

Has anybody figured out a way to partially fill a car with a scangauge with messing up the calibration. Because the SG assumes you filled up,it would be off if I entered only 5 gallons because that's all I put in. Also, wonder wonder why nobody has created an add less than a tank feature to the SG. Do other options like the MPGuino have it?


(Support Ecomodder.com & get rid of these annoying ads!)      
 
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2010, 04:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
...beats walking...
 
Old Tele man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 3,352

Vibe - '09 Vibe Base (2ZR-FE)
90 day: 32.19 mpg (US)

Goldie Locks - '011 Cruze LTZ
90 day: 29.42 mpg (US)
Thanks: 56
Thanked 330 Times in 249 Posts
...I'm a noobie to the SGII, but I'd simply 'check' the gallons used that it (SGII) reports against the actual gallons-pumped, and if they "agree" (close enough), simply press "DONE" and "SAVE"...that'd restart the MPG cycle.
__________________
2011 Chevrolet Cruze LTZ 1.4LT 6A
2009 Pontiac Vibe 1.8L/SFI 4A
2004 Pontiac Vibe 1.8L/MFI 4A
2003 Ford Focus ZX5 2.0L/Zetec 4A

1971 Dodge Charger 318 3A
1970½ Plymouth AAR 'Cuda 340/6BBL 4M
1968 Dodge Charger 383 3A
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 383 4M
1965 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 273 4M
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2010, 05:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: boise id
Posts: 63

Red Wrangler - '98 Wrangler Sport
90 day: 17.15 mpg (US)

Wife's car - '01 Sentra GXE
90 day: 30.43 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Tele man View Post
...I'm a noobie to the SGII, but I'd simply 'check' the gallons used that it (SGII) reports against the actual gallons-pumped, and if they "agree" (close enough), simply press "DONE" and "SAVE"...that'd restart the MPG cycle.
How would that work? Wouldn't the gallons pumped normally be less than the SG predicted if you stopped filling before the tank was full? Unless the SG was off. That would cause the SG to think it was getting better fuel mileage than it actually was.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2010, 05:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
...beats walking...
 
Old Tele man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 3,352

Vibe - '09 Vibe Base (2ZR-FE)
90 day: 32.19 mpg (US)

Goldie Locks - '011 Cruze LTZ
90 day: 29.42 mpg (US)
Thanks: 56
Thanked 330 Times in 249 Posts
...no, the SGII's FILLUP function is reporting how many gallons of gasoline it "calculated" as being used, you enter how much was "actually" used.

...it's part 2 of Step 4) Calibrating Your ScanGaugeII process:

Part 2 - Your Second (or subsequent) Fill Up:

1) When the tank is around 1/4 full, fill up your tank again. Be sure to let the pump shut off automatically.

2) Use the FILLUP function to tell ScanGaugeII you have filled the tank. From the Home screen, follow the sequence: MORE>FILLUP>

3) The next screen will show the amount of fuel your ScanGaugeII believes was used since the previous fill up. Use the upper left and right function buttons (A,C) to adjust the amount of fuel you actually put in the tank. <---this is where you're actually "calibrating" the SGII.

4) Push the DONE button.

5) After pressing DONE, the fuel COST screen will appear. Enter the cost per gallon/liter and press the SAVE button.
__________________
2011 Chevrolet Cruze LTZ 1.4LT 6A
2009 Pontiac Vibe 1.8L/SFI 4A
2004 Pontiac Vibe 1.8L/MFI 4A
2003 Ford Focus ZX5 2.0L/Zetec 4A

1971 Dodge Charger 318 3A
1970½ Plymouth AAR 'Cuda 340/6BBL 4M
1968 Dodge Charger 383 3A
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 383 4M
1965 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 273 4M

Last edited by Old Tele man; 02-27-2010 at 08:15 PM..
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2010, 06:04 PM   #5 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: boise id
Posts: 63

Red Wrangler - '98 Wrangler Sport
90 day: 17.15 mpg (US)

Wife's car - '01 Sentra GXE
90 day: 30.43 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Tele man View Post
...no, the SGII's FILLUP function is reporting how many gallons of gasoline it "calculated" as being used, you enter how much was "actually" used.
I think your misunderstanding my question or I'm misunderstanding your answer. I'm asking if anyone knows what to do if for some reason you stop filling the tank before the pump clicks off(For example if I have to use a 5 gallon can). Or if you just want to run less in the tank to reduce weight.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2010, 06:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
...beats walking...
 
Old Tele man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 3,352

Vibe - '09 Vibe Base (2ZR-FE)
90 day: 32.19 mpg (US)

Goldie Locks - '011 Cruze LTZ
90 day: 29.42 mpg (US)
Thanks: 56
Thanked 330 Times in 249 Posts
...I'm saying, just treat it as a "short fillup" and start over again, hence my previous statement: "...that'd restart the MPG cycle."

...if you make no changes (ie: don't press the A or C buttons), but continue thru the setup process, you're effectively "re-starting" the MPG cycle.
__________________
2011 Chevrolet Cruze LTZ 1.4LT 6A
2009 Pontiac Vibe 1.8L/SFI 4A
2004 Pontiac Vibe 1.8L/MFI 4A
2003 Ford Focus ZX5 2.0L/Zetec 4A

1971 Dodge Charger 318 3A
1970½ Plymouth AAR 'Cuda 340/6BBL 4M
1968 Dodge Charger 383 3A
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 383 4M
1965 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 273 4M

Last edited by Old Tele man; 02-27-2010 at 06:11 PM..
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2010, 06:10 PM   #7 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: boise id
Posts: 63

Red Wrangler - '98 Wrangler Sport
90 day: 17.15 mpg (US)

Wife's car - '01 Sentra GXE
90 day: 30.43 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Wouldn't that mess up the SG's calibration because it uses the fillup figures to calibrate itself? If you adjust it to what you put in, the SG will think the car used less fuel than it predicted. If you just agree with what it predicted, then the next fillup will be off.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2010, 06:15 PM   #8 (permalink)
...beats walking...
 
Old Tele man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 3,352

Vibe - '09 Vibe Base (2ZR-FE)
90 day: 32.19 mpg (US)

Goldie Locks - '011 Cruze LTZ
90 day: 29.42 mpg (US)
Thanks: 56
Thanked 330 Times in 249 Posts
...as I understand it, there are two options:

1) restart (what I've been discussing), or...

2) postpone the whole situation and simply add the 5 gallons to the "next" pump fillup number, and definitely do a FILLUP calibration.

...I do a FILLUP calibration with "each" tank fillup, just to see if there are any changes going on, and if so, by how much and in which direction.
__________________
2011 Chevrolet Cruze LTZ 1.4LT 6A
2009 Pontiac Vibe 1.8L/SFI 4A
2004 Pontiac Vibe 1.8L/MFI 4A
2003 Ford Focus ZX5 2.0L/Zetec 4A

1971 Dodge Charger 318 3A
1970½ Plymouth AAR 'Cuda 340/6BBL 4M
1968 Dodge Charger 383 3A
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 383 4M
1965 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 273 4M
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Old Tele man For This Useful Post:
bombloader (02-27-2010)
Old 02-27-2010, 06:24 PM   #9 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: boise id
Posts: 63

Red Wrangler - '98 Wrangler Sport
90 day: 17.15 mpg (US)

Wife's car - '01 Sentra GXE
90 day: 30.43 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Sounds like the second option would work as long as you right down the amount you put in for the partial fillup. Although I wonder if the SG would notice if in some case the amount you put between the two fillups exceeded the tank capacity you inputted.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2010, 06:29 PM   #10 (permalink)
...beats walking...
 
Old Tele man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 3,352

Vibe - '09 Vibe Base (2ZR-FE)
90 day: 32.19 mpg (US)

Goldie Locks - '011 Cruze LTZ
90 day: 29.42 mpg (US)
Thanks: 56
Thanked 330 Times in 249 Posts
...good question. As I mentioned at the start, I'm a noobie to SGII who's only good for regurgatating the already written directions (at least I've read them).

...maybe somebody else here knows of "tricks" that might help?


(Support Ecomodder.com & get rid of these annoying ads!)      
 
__________________
2011 Chevrolet Cruze LTZ 1.4LT 6A
2009 Pontiac Vibe 1.8L/SFI 4A
2004 Pontiac Vibe 1.8L/MFI 4A
2003 Ford Focus ZX5 2.0L/Zetec 4A

1971 Dodge Charger 318 3A
1970½ Plymouth AAR 'Cuda 340/6BBL 4M
1968 Dodge Charger 383 3A
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 383 4M
1965 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 273 4M
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread

Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Scangauge II vs cruise control rjacob Instrumentation 10 06-02-2011 02:36 PM
Dealer says ScanGauge ruined my PCM and I can't use ScanGauge anymore Markmysite EcoModding Central 55 05-06-2010 06:31 AM
Scangauge Suggestions JonnyG Instrumentation 23 02-13-2010 04:17 PM
Scangauge and Partial Fills trikkonceptz Instrumentation 7 10-15-2009 12:10 AM
Scangauge 1 - Some help please! jdubbs_scort Instrumentation 6 06-17-2008 03:26 PM




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com