Quote:
Originally Posted by roflwaffle
Holy cow! You don't think a statement, which was directed at others, and I responded to with information about my situation/s, is disingenuous if you respond to my statement by using information about your situation/s, when it's not your situation that I'm using, but my situation in response to this general statement from RH77 to everyone else? C'mon meng...  |
Am I not one of "others?" You asked to see the math
So I chose two vehicles -and old one and one equivalent to the age of my DD. I'm willing to be most of the members here have vehicles that fall between that range.
Quote:
Originally Posted by roflwaffle
RH77's statement was to everyone, including all their own unique situations, not just your cherry picked example.  |
Sure, but I don't have everyone' Social Security numbers to get insurance rates with
I highly doubt anyone is going to give me their SS# on top of their hauling needs. I personally wouldn't do that - which is why I can only give my situation.
Quote:
Originally Posted by roflwaffle
That's your example, not mine. My example/s would be what I do/need. Thus far, the only info you have on my examples are my insurance/registration rates, a range of associated fuel costs, and the number of days I tend to use a vehicle on a trip. I suppose from that you could infer some range as well, but in any event, your cherry picked example is not my example. You can't just take a few attributes, and claim it's something I would do. Well, you can, but yer reachin if I'm responding to a general statement about what's cheaper for me...  |
I was given
-Registration
-Insurance
-Cost of Rental
-Approx. distance your traveled on your rental.
These are the four metrics I've been looking at. I haven't included gas as you'll need to pay for gas in whatever method you use to acquire a vehicle. And I haven't been including maintenance as that will vary and is not predictable. So I took my registration, your experience with insurance rather than my quote, my cost of rental from UHaul and two selections of mileage (yours* and mine). I'm not sure how that's considered cherry picking. *Looks like I made an error there and used 80 cents per mile rather than 65 cents per mile.... That changes the cost/rental by ~$12
Quote:
Fer sure. How many people do you know that would do something for themselves in less time than it would take to "earn" the money to pay someone else to do it? No a whole lot. Why? I dunno, I guess most people just like doing repetitive tasks for a longer amount of time than it would take to just fix their own stuff. 
|
Depends if your job is repetitive
But, most people don't have the know how or means to DIY. I personally have the know how, just not the means to do anything major (timing belt, clutch, etc.).
Quote:
Bennelson commented:
“They used to call that all-purpose vehicle a station wagon.”
To which I say:
What is a SUV but a station wagon on a truck chassis with an extra drive axle?
What is a hatchback but a little station wagon built on a subcompact car platform?
|
Station wagons have to meet safety criteria for cars. So yes, an SUV is a wagon without the wagon safety standards/requirements.
Sure, hatchbacks could be considered like wagons - I guess. Just with less cargo area
-----
Quote:
|
In order to do that, even with a general case, you'll need to have/present more information than just anecdotal accounts, to show that in general what you said is the case. I think defining stuff such as bounds and what you meant by "in general" quantitatively would be a good start. Not to say that what you said isn't true in general, unlike my response to your earlier statement, just that you need way more data to establish it in a scientific way IMO.
|
So get a quote from esurance for a 2000 F150 and a '81 F150 on top of your normal car. This way we all have something to compare to. Yes, the evidence provided is just barely anecdotal. Again, because we don't have everyone else's SS# to get insurance quotes. But UHaul rental rates appear to be the same, registration varies from state to state around 1 rental or so (we'll say yours is the low end, mind is on the higher end). Mileage does vary from person to person (so I've made effort to include the approx mileage you implicitly provided)..... What, specifically, are you looking for?
Don't get me wrong - I'm not attacking you personally... Although I will admit I'm not entirely satisfied when asked to show math - I put my SS# down to get numbers from an insurance company and then told I'm not being candid/straightforward. I can send a screen shot of the eMails I got if you want... Hell, I even got the distance from my local UHaul to my school's campus then to the foam drop off location to a gas station and then back to the same UHaul. 40 miles wasn't arbitrary - I took 30% over that mileage calculation and added ~1 to make it an even 40
.
Whew, sorry for another long winded post.. Beer for everyone...