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The problem there is that they obviously don't. Leaving politics out and sticking strictly to cars, have you priced SUVs or big pickups, especially once you start adding options? They're right up there in Volt territory, sometimes - Hummer, Escalade, &c - well beyond. Are the people who buy these buying with their wallets? Or with something on the other side of their trousers?
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Good Lord how many thousands of $$ in options are you adding to a base Prius anyway? From what you are saying people are about doubling the price of a Prius with so many options. Shesh, I have crank up windows, no ABS, no power door locks, and saved a lot from just that. I never meet any people that bought $15,000 in options on a new car. But, hey, east Kentucky is not in the US.
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Just like there weren't enough to mean squat in Prius sales, eh?
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I have little idea what you are saying. Lets see, where to start, based on what I can understand from your post.... The Prius never made a profit for at least two model years, and even had a great bump in sales in 2008 due to $4.00 a gallon gas, they were in a good position and YOU seem to keep forgetting the price of a Prius is NOT $40,000 a car, and if it is, then you have waaaay to many factory options on it!
Oh, back up a sec... What is on their trousers? huh? I guess your just too smart for me. And I have not seen a Hummer on the road since the $4.00 gas prices of 2008 and I have been through some fairly big cities, where the hell are all of these Hummers that people drive to work in? I guess it has something to do with the traffic flow here, that must of all part of living here here 15th planet that rotates around our sun known as "East Kentucky". I am PROUD of living where I do. Repeating that you do not recognize East Kentucky as being the U.S, well at best you must mean PART of the U.S. Gosh we have people here that like to pretend California is not part of America, but that does not stop me from hearing out what the folks on the west coast have to say- I do not put up a mental wall and say "And California is not the US". A closed mind is like a closed book.
My only point I am trying to make is because our economy is so poor that I do not think the market for cars 40K and higher is enough to help GM out of their mess. Everyday I hear and read where people talk about The Volt, and the very next thing they talk about is the rumored 40K price- Believe me, just by reading the forums on here it is most clear that asking 40K for The Volt, a first generation car, will be out-priced problem for many potential customers. That's what happens when all of our middle income jobs go to China and the workers are now lucky to flip hamburgers for a minute. Gosh the market for USED cars is way bigger than the market for NEW cars, all because of what people can and can not afford. Even GM has already expressed some concerns about the rumored price of The Volt.
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You need to remember, though, that East Kentucky is not the US.
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Ah, I got the message the first time. You need to understand that East Kentucky IS part of the US no matter how much you may wish it not to be true, I would think even an 6th grade education would teach one that.
I suppose neither is Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Tennessee, Georgia, Florida and all the other places I have been are not the US. either I have been around.
I seen a first in the nearby town this year- A Prius hybrid, an fact one was in front of my to day at a drive thu. The town is so small were all pretty sure the owner works at the hospital, because we just do not seem to have any more here and have seen it parked there before. That's how small the city is.
As for the rest of your arguments all I can say is I have no idea what your trying to say nor what is your point. I guess being from East Kentucky means I can not understand certain posts.
I really would like to drop this debate because I see nobody winning, nor do I see any sense in each of us trying to get the last word in. So if you want to reply again, fine, but please don't provoke me to defend my positions again, it's not doing the other members any good either as we go back and forth in an endless debate that others likely will rather not read.