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Originally Posted by Christ

Oh, and don't forget me. Crash test ratings mean nothing to me, honestly.

I remember the 4th gen Civics... Light was a design feature. In fact, Honda in general in days of yore, light was a design feature.

There is a story about Soichiro Honda from back when the company first started:

As the lead engineer and founder of Honda, Soichiro believed that weight and performance went hand in hand. Excess weight meant lack of efficiency, and that meant higher prices in all aspects, both for the company and for the consumer. Some felt he was going too far when he would troll the assembly lines, measuring and triple-checking the assembled product. When he found a bolt that was a few threads too long, he would remove it, document it, file those threads off, document that, then require that all new orders of the aforementioned bolt were ordered to the new specified length, and all blueprints of the bolt be updated to show the refined specification.

I think you are maybe the 2nd or 3rd adult (normally motorcycle drivers) I ever heard say that they did not care about crash ratings. If one has any trust in the ratings as truly showing what is safe and what is not safe, well I for one would like to live as long and as healthy life as I can. So I will gladly give up a few MPG for MY LIFE.