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Old 11-06-2009, 11:57 AM   #184 (permalink)
Nerys
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90 day: 50.15 mpg (US)

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Originally Posted by dcb View Post
FYI, I just looked at Nerys metro page Details: Ryo-Oki - 1994 Geo Metro Xfi Fuel Economy - EcoModder.com

he/she (its HE) does claim to schlep 1300 lbs around (4 people and some gear), so definite kudos for being efficient in that regard (and already owns an xfi).

But it is a good point. Nerys, it would be good to have a baseline though, do you always have 1300lbs of payload? or do you know what average mpg you get with just a driver and no gear? If you are using good technique and can't beat 45mpg in an xfi by a wide margin then you may very well have some mechanical issues.

The insight is a good example of a mild hybrid, and has lean burn provisions for cruise. I'm sure the power management could be improved upon with some human intervention though, and a bit of wall plug.
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YES 100% of my driving is with 4 people in the car and my gear so I always have 1300 pounds in the car (well I hope that will be 250 pounds less by next summer as my sister and i lose weight)

I am 376 pounds (was 418 6 weeks ago) My sister is 316 My brother is 221 and the 4th person is 165 pounds

Thats 1078 pounds in people plus out clothing. NEVER underestimate the mass of the clothing of 300 pound people :-) figure another 20 pounds.

add in 200-250 pounds of gear. Once the car is reliable I will reduce this by 100 pound by leaving most of my tools at home.

so roughly 1348 pounds in the car now each time I go out.

I don't think even 10% of my weekly tank is just me alone. I tend to combine trips and destinations to minimize driving alone since it wastes fuel. Sometimes I will drive with just 2 or 3 people but again this is short little trips to the store or to a meeting or something like that ie a VERY small fraction of my overall driving.

YES its a VERY VERY tight fit and not the most comfortable but I told everyone as long as I have to pay for my fuel its going to be the metro or nothing. If they all want to chip in $8 a pop we will take the van. I have had no takers yet. (it takes $24 in gasoline to take the van round trip) It only gets 15mpg I used to get 19mpg but that was pre E10. The metro takes less than $6 in gasoline to do the same thing.

This metro has already saved me $250 in gas which is a good thing since I make LESS now than I did 2 months ago and LITERALLY could not afford to drive the van to work today. Just don't have the money.

also I believe the car DOES have some mechanical issues. I got most of them. Rear cylinders both control arms new rims and nuts (they were BAD)

Ripped apart the EGR and cleaned is out WOW what a difference in idle and 5mpg boost on fuel economy! (well I did the control arms at the same time so they might have helped a little but I can't imagine much plus I did a full tune up changed EVERYTHING)

Its still a little rough on idle. I am not sure what is NORMAL for this car. I have never had nor never been in a metro before. I have no idea of this idle is normal. seems VERY slow to me but it never tries to stall. Compression is good though 175-175-170 so I am confident I have a good tight motor just got to track down any little gremlins that are left.

the stick no longer waggles at idle like it did when I got it but it still vibes enough that the mufflers sometimes moves enough to tap the tire cavity. (the rubber hangers are a bit stretched too so I am going to replace all of them)

I am still working on the car. its MUCH MUCH smoother now than when I got it. Still need to get a new radiator but the stop leak is holding for now. I want to take care of that before winter sets in so hopefully in the next 2 weeks I will flush it and replace the radiator.

I am usually free on sunday's if I have an extra $30 one day maybe I will take the merto out on the turnpike and just go 200 miles west and then turn around and come back with no gear and JUST me in the car. See what I get but at 50mpg roughly thats going to take a while :-) ie at least 7 hours of driving. At least I will only burn 8 or 9 gallons of fuel doing it. We shall see if i have the time to do it. 7+ hours $20 in gas and $10-$15 in tolls is a lot of cash and time just to "see" what I get alone though. I will see how I feel each sunday if I am up to it or not. Not this sunday though don't have the cash needed for that.

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