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Old 11-30-2009, 06:45 PM   #163 (permalink)
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Re CAD...

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Originally Posted by RobertSmalls View Post
What kind of software are you using
Sorry, should have said "CAD", in quotes. With a nod to Craig Vetter, I was talking about "Cardboard Aided Design".

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Originally Posted by aerohead View Post
Darin,the tuft images look great.They may be a little "nervous" in places,but they're mostly pointed "back" which means attached flow and no circulation.
Thanks for the input, Phil.

I'm a little nervous about those nervous looking side tufts. It's clear I could increase the top taper - those tufts are laying almost still right to the transom.

What I don't know - and maybe you or Bob can tell me - is this: should my goal be to taper as much as possible until I actually see evidence of separation through circulation/reverse flow, and then back off a bit?

In other words, will we achieve favorable drag results even as we increase the amount of "nervousness" in the tufts (evidence of tubulence and a thickening boundary layer) through further tapering?

It's clear I can taper the top more. Not sure about the sides though. Maybe you can decide when I post some video this week.

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Many of the concept cars have "apparent" angles which are pretty steep until you figure what happens with their active suspensions,with dropped noses kicking their hineys up to a "shallower" angle.
Given that Cd is supposedly constant in the range of speeds where road vehicles operate, why would a vehicle want to actively adjust its angle of attack? Is the nose up/tail down attitude a concession to low speed driving for clearance, making the top angle aerodynamically sub-optimal until the nose goes down?
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