03-10-2010, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by comptiger5000
The biggest problem with this is not whether or not it happens, but that people are too stupid to do anything to save themselves. If the throttle were to get stuck open on my Jeep, there is no way the brakes would stop the thing, it's too overpowered. It would be - Click ignition off, shift to neutral, let engine spin down, click ignition back on (ignition off before neutral to avoid bouncing the rev limiter at WOT).
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Yeah, but in this post I found my "smoking gun". The claim is that you *can't* shift in neutral (at least, from my understanding, above a certain speed) :
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Originally Posted by cfg83
Hello -
Ok, I think I found what I was looking for :
The Lawyers Behind the Toyota Floor Mat Recall - FOXBusiness.com
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Feb 12, 2010 (PRWeb.com via COMTEX) ...
The Johnson case against Toyota would take less than 12 months to settle with an agreement of confidentiality. "I believe that Toyota did not want to answer questions in this case," added Franecke. Those questions surround the push button that kills the engine after it is held down continuously for 3 seconds. At 120 miles an hour, you can travel 500 feet or nearly the distance of two football fields before the car coasts to a stop.
Second, you cannot stop a vehicle with brakes if the accelerator is jammed. Each pump of the brakes is less effective and the amount of force necessary to stop the wheels at 120 miles an hour is nearly impossible for most drivers. You will fry the brakes as Mr. Gomez did in the Johnson case. Third, you cannot get the car out of gear. In the Camry, once the car is moving and accelerator depressed you cannot get it out of gear. It is locked in and won't move out of the automatic position. This is a transmission design. Placing torque on the accelerator will not allow it to move out of gear. Lastly, attorneys Mann and Franecke were prepared to ask and delve into why the Toyota accelerator jams so much? Was it a mechanical or electrical problem?
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This is what I was looking for. The Camry transmission, *by design*, will not allow you to go into neutral when the car is under acceleration. I am betting the Lexus transmission is the same. It's not necessarily a software issue, but it is a design issue. They are probably trying to protect the transmission, *by design*.
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