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Originally Posted by Christ
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My 9 month old's favorite toy is a cardboard box. He stands up on it. Well, he stands up on everything, actually, but he loves that box. He puts his toys in it, then takes them back out. He puts everything in that box, then takes it back out.
It's simple, and he likes it. That's all I need.
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Actually kids will have more fun with imagination than things that has always been true and oddly enough I would estimate 99% of modern marvels are actually not that much of an addition to our adult lives either, they do make them more complex and time consuming though.
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Originally Posted by Frank Lee
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I agree with Frank population reduction should be on the table, unfortunately only education can VERY slowly change peoples minds. We must remember there are many who have children knowing full well they have no ability to provide for them, yet feel its their right anyway.
This selfishness of a form is the problem and is a core of many peoples beliefs, they inherently believe they can so it is a right and not a privilege.
Without the formal centuries family structures imposed on us, there are a lot of ******* children running around and no one the wiser. Unless you can find a way to fight stupidity, impress family values and irresponsibility, some smack down would be needed to cause conformity to the extent that I'm not sure we can go there.
Trouble is EVERY time in history that the population expanded beyond the ability of the area to provide for the population war and pestilence has broken out bringing the population into control. Because of modern tech we have been able to bypass this somewhat but we are only amassing more problems and making the troubles more severe once we no longer can cope.
I guess it more likely we are going to go on the way we are until something massive forces change like war, disease, etc.
We already have many many people in this country that are very sick I don't think it would take much for that to tip should one support or another fail. Also the fact that our government is trying to figure out how much fake deadly protein can be in our food and already allows it to be fed to beef and pigs a few weeks before slaughter we likely are going to start dying from the crap they put in our food before anything else. Then the blasted nano-food technology that is in the food but not on the lable.
In other words I doubt it possible to convince people to take responsibility for their actions and keep the population in check voluntarily. I think it much more likely our population will drop massively once the floor falls.
The sad part is, in history when population dropped dramatically the poorest peoples benefited massively with more food, land, freedom (at least for a time) No telling them that though, they want the opposite for some reason.
We could have much cleaner, healthier, more prosperous lives if we could learn to keep it in our pants, trouble is everyone would have to do the same.
Cheers
Ryan