[Christ]

The site is kind of a mixed group. Some of us are here for economy, others for ecology, and others still for wholly different reasons. We all tend to understand the global necessities, but still stick to home with personal desires being fulfilled first and foremost.

In other words, there are those of us who don't care as much about getting the best fuel economy as we do about simply not using the fuel in the first place.

Then there are those of us who, in our lives, are still bound by petroleum fuel, and intend only to get the best economy we can with what's available.

More still are only interested in the micro-economics of fuel economy, saving money by getting the best mileage possible, regardless of the ecological effects.

Then there are subsets of those, as well as other topics with their own individual following.

However, the use of ethanol does NOT allow for the use of less petroleum fuels. It increases the rate of use for fossil fuels by decreasing the fuel economy of the vehicles in which it's being used, thereby requiring that more fuel be used to go the same distance, including more frequent fuel stops, as well as indirectly causing greater petroleum fuel use by the necessity to repair parts which are destroyed by ethanol-mixed fuels. Those parts have to come from somewhere.

What about the small engines business? I've seen a surge lately of ATV's which just came out for the summer, and are already in the shop due to ethanol fuels destroying the rubber diaphragms, o-rings, and seals in said engines. You think that doesn't cost fuel? To manufacture all those new parts, take the vehicles to the repair shops, pick them up, etc.