07-24-2010, 08:54 PM
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Here's Oliver Kuttner's post on Facebook:
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Here are the official results following the EPA combined test cycle (134 miles):
Car #95: 109 mpge a good run with about 130 mpge highway.
Car #98: 101 mpge with windy and very hot conditions.
Car #97: 95 mpge with windy and very hot conditions and a traffic situation where our driver was forced to go into boost to stay ...out of the time penalty window while adhering to strict PIAXP rules. That is the car that already did 101.4 in knock out and it is about 5 mpge better now because of careful emissions mapping improvement. These numbers are after all penalties.
Because the cars are so young we are still learning hard lessons. PIAXP staff discovered that we were loosing fuel to evaporation through the charcoal canister. After careful tests it turned out that because our fuel tank is race specific... and situated next to the engine. Essentially we are cooking the E85 alcohol based fuel and are loosing between 1.5% and 3% of our fuel through evaporation. This hurt us so far (I.E. the actual numbers are better by that amount) but now we correct it and it will benefit us during the Argonne Lab sequence. This discovery is a tribute to the very careful way PIAXP conducts this with good people. We are finding that many discoveries are made some subtle and some obvious (I can not believe we missed this). These cars are moving the art of measurement into a new realm. When you get to the edge everything gets more critical. For example the hereto not considered impact of the laser probe on the back of an automobile in coast down tests usually has little impact on a car due to its mass and dirty air in the tail section. In or case the attachment of the laser probe will add about 13% to the aerodynamic drag...
There are many lessons to be learned.
All the ICEs are out except ours. No plug in hybrid broke the 100 mpge number and there are no production based cars left in the competition. Proof positive that it can not be done unless there is a complete departure from the ordinary.
The two production based cars the AMP Sky and the Tata could go 90 miles at 45 mph but could not do 100 at 55 mph. Tata withdrew with "charger difficulties" but looking at thier radio communications I suspect that their hot rod could not do it...
Actually AMP did the 100 miles but when assessed a 1 lap penalty for going over interios temperature limit (not running the AC) that put them over the top, they could not do the last lap. to me a tribute for their technology as they may well have the best electric drive in a production based car to date...
I suspect that a Nissan Leaf or Tesla Sedan would have struggled here...
The x prize is showing clearly that there are no 300 mpge electric cars... It shows that production based cars can not do it... It shows that the "zero pollution" statement is an advertising statement not reality based for most applications.
it also shows that there is a good reason to develop electric cars and that they have real merit in some applications...
On Tuesday in a small Michigan town with fewer than 1000 people watching will be a historic motor race. The largest purse in history will be decided in a few hours of racing between very few participants... 2 cars (our #97 against our #98) must go 200 miles one will get 5 million if it does not break down (sounds like the year 1901), There will be a race between 2 motorcycles and one car (Edison2 #95) for 2.5 million dollars. It will be over in less than 1.5 hours...
The big race will be between six 2 seat prototypes (Finland, Germany and USA are represented) for 2.5 million dollars. Untried cars will be at the start... Anybody could win and it is for another 2.5 million. Lessons learned from this will influence the way millions of people are gong to live in the future... It has been a good week.
I think fewer than 1000 people watched at kitty Hawk on a certain day in history... That is the curse of the true departure from the normal.
In yesterday' s email I got a form letter response from a large oil company stating that their sponsorship budget is eaten up by their multi million dollar effort in a certain racing series... Obviously these people do not connect the BP disaster with anything that may influence them My application was a long time ago...
Also yesterday I got congratulations from two members of the board at two different very large corporations. I also had a visit from two people who want to drive technology and are interested in working with Edison2 in the future. Some people are watching. We know Edison2 has a bright future after the X Prize....
Regards Oliver
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Also a more recent post:
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Our complements and thanks to PIAXP staff. They are very precise and found that we were loosing fuel to evaporation through very precise measurements between sessions. That was an important thing we had overlooked which hurt us. The tech team has some world class consultants in its ranks. In this competition for millions it is good to have smart people as everything is subject to being "off the scales" as we are departing from the ordinary and sometimes find out the unexpected, to our surprise....
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