[robchalmers]

Thinking more about Lithium But I take your point.

I don't really classify my self as a sceptic, more as under-informed and this thread is helping to correct that.

so far:

In the US were the diesel infastructure rivals that of the hydrogen infastructure, people are turned-on to the Hybrid idea to pull back the FE and downsize from Buigger thrustier cars/trucks.

In Europe, Few hybrids make viable sense beyond fashion/eco statement or a tax dodge due to the cheapness/availability of diesel cars that can match or beat hybrids on CO2/Cost/FE

I'd also love to know the FE differences of a decent Diesel v's Hybrid away from lab conditions..... a few miles on the clock, 3 people on board, groceries/stuff in the trunk driving on something other than theoretical flat ground and driven by a 'normo'. It'd be a hard test to do fairly but could be interesting!