[Nerys]

" Its scary when your vehicle starts rolling backwards when parked do to tranny failure. The transmission was replaced more then once in the time the warranty was good. I am getting off topic here. "


hahahahaha take a wild flippant guess whats being replaced on that 98 windstar RIGHT NOW :-) hehe yeah Not fun.


"Weird that you have had so many problems my old Subaru with 240k ran better on E50 then E0 or even E10 and i did not need to replace my fuel pump after using it. Also I have not seen the same results as you when it comes to mileage I got 27 Hwy with the Subaru under normal driving conditions on E10 that's the original EPA rating."

I notice the "new" epa ratings the give for cars just happen to perfectly match up with the "e10" results people are seeing. HENCE why my cars original rating is 53/58 but its "new" rating is 46/51 or something like that.

Intentional? or maybe they are just using E10 in their cars and forgot to mention that in their results (bad science)


"You had problems with pinging? I don't think the ethanol is the problem. One of the reasons race car drivers use ethanol is its anti knock properties plus its a safer fuel. "

I agree that the ethanol is not likely of any relation to the pinging. it however is NOT safer in fact its quite dangerous. maybe your thinking methanol?? its extremely corrosive and not safe for humans.

"As for mileage going down with ethanol, burning a little more ethanol because of slight decrease in fuel economy is still better then whats going on right now. Do you know anything about Canada's oil sands/tar sands? Its being called the new Saudi Arabia. Its an environmental disaster just ask the people that live near where its mined and refined who are getting rare types of cancer and other rare diseases plus they cant drink the local water. Not to mention it takes LOTS of energy to produce even more then conventional gas. The US is buying and using millions of gallons of tar sand oil it could be in your car right now. "

this is part of what makes me so mad 123.

ONE of the reasons touted for using Ethanol is that we are replacing 10% of our fuel with it so 10% less foreign oil.

but if I am losing MORE than 10% of my fuel economy as the data states well that means Ethanol results in me buying EVEN MORE foreign oil so EVEN MORE problems for canada and their tar sands.

"I know nothing I say nor anyone else will probably change things and you will do what you want its your choice but I for one will not use E0 even though I can buy it."

This tells me you were not looking for a discussion at all that you are quite closed minded. I hope I am wrong but that is what such a statement sends as its message.

Granted if you are seeing less than a 10% drop in FE when using E10 OK from your perspective it might make sense (only if your ignore the ecological damage ethanol production causes but thats another issue)

the problem is thousands upon thousands probably millions of us are losing far more than 10% of our fuel economy. This means we are NOT cleaner NOT greener NOT cheaper and are using MORE OIL than before and wearing our cars out faster and causing more maintenance.