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320touring · 02-12-2011, 04:35 PM

i'm really enjoying this thread

Arragonis, i'm with you on the 'initial buyer' point-essentially it needs to be the original orderer that makes the eco request

Funnily enough my burd's mk 1 golf gti has a 'shift light' built in, from the factory!

Also, i've done 7.5k in 13 days in a ford ka round europe-a grand car

regarding the post re 'average joe comment-i'm sure 'passive improvements' like aero, grille blocks, start stop etc will yield a benefit to all.

Personally i see there as being a need for a 'stepping stone' stage towards the general public and fuel economisation. The behavioural change is effective but difficult to impliment, whereas mods over a whole trim level spectrum in a car IS cost effective, assuming every vehicle recieves it-this essentially ties in with the points re profit arragonis made.

Frank, funnily enough, there was an explosion of pickups in the UK due to company car tax legislation..so lots of estate agents and lawyers in mitsu warriors-despite never carrying a load of soil, or driving off road.not to mention the 20'' wheels and elastic band tyres being useless in the snow

So how do we get the 'initial purchaser'(which could be either an individual or a company car pool) to specify economy alongside performance and prestige??

02-12-2011, 04:35 PM	#24 (permalink)
320touring Master EcoModder Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: scotland Posts: 1,434 The Mistress - '88 Bmw 320i Touring SE Team m8 Last 3: 27.17 mpg (US) Germany Beadle - '91 Mercedes 300td (estate, N/A) 90 day: 24.63 mpg (US) The Bloodylingo - '05 Citroen Berlingo Multispace Desire 90 day: 39.77 mpg (US) Shanner Scaab - '03 Saab 9-5 estate Vector 90 day: 26.19 mpg (US) Clio 182 - '05 Renault Clio RS 182 182 90 day: 31.73 mpg (US) Thanks: 90 Thanked 95 Times in 79 Posts	i'm really enjoying this thread Arragonis, i'm with you on the 'initial buyer' point-essentially it needs to be the original orderer that makes the eco request Funnily enough my burd's mk 1 golf gti has a 'shift light' built in, from the factory! Also, i've done 7.5k in 13 days in a ford ka round europe-a grand car regarding the post re 'average joe comment-i'm sure 'passive improvements' like aero, grille blocks, start stop etc will yield a benefit to all. Personally i see there as being a need for a 'stepping stone' stage towards the general public and fuel economisation. The behavioural change is effective but difficult to impliment, whereas mods over a whole trim level spectrum in a car IS cost effective, assuming every vehicle recieves it-this essentially ties in with the points re profit arragonis made. Frank, funnily enough, there was an explosion of pickups in the UK due to company car tax legislation..so lots of estate agents and lawyers in mitsu warriors-despite never carrying a load of soil, or driving off road.not to mention the 20'' wheels and elastic band tyres being useless in the snow So how do we get the 'initial purchaser'(which could be either an individual or a company car pool) to specify economy alongside performance and prestige??