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Okay read the other posts now. Thanks for the input. I was very careful to select both estimates as "dealer price" or "private sale" price depending on what car I was looking at, so that is not the reason for the difference. Perhaps it is inflation of used car prices as war wagon said, since nearly everything in my area seems ridiculously overpriced.
And no, I don't really want to buy from a dealer. It's just that there aren't many echos and lean burn hondas around, and finding one in decent shape seems kind of hard.
Maybe I'll end up just holding out for a year or two and shoot for a fiesta or something like that.
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