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larrybuck · 06-15-2011, 11:54 PM

Because I've had driving jobs most of my life, I value having my license VERY SERIOUSLY!!! I'm going to stop for signs/lights. The tiny bit of fuel saved: will it cover a potential ticket, and insurance rate increases??

I get rather annoyed when I see someone who won't STAY at a red light because they don't feel like it!

As for the cyclists (bicycle)... I see plenty of radical ones around Portland who ignore all laws thereby INFLAMING auto drivers against them. This problem of aggressive warfare between the two groups has grown immensely in the last few yrs. Many cyclists, because of their blatant rudeness are looked upon with as much hate as any Harley biker could be... Mix a redneck PU guy w a preppy know it all bicycle rider: its not pretty!

In areas where stop signs seem to be put up as almost just a simple tradition, instead of thinking fresher, officials should be reminded that the stop not only uses more gas, but causes more pollution as well. Thankfully roundabouts are increasing quite a bit around here; but I'm sure thats not the case everywhere.

It's kind of ironic that a total urbanite who maybe doesn't go more than 5 miles a day has so many options...bus/bike/walk/moped/scooter... even the most gas sucking V8 in an old car works as depreciation is gone, they inherently hold together well (60's-early70's) repair cheap, and as long as they are not driven far; won't cost much.

Then at the other end; is the country guy w little to no stoplights/signs to worry with, but must travel many miles to get somewhere, so a mpg veh. becomes a high need, but most of the that kind of driving is the most peaceful and mellow.

Stuck in the middle(just like the song) is the supposed utopia of life where most of the population is, all clashing light to light, with the new'hoods springing up stopsigns like rabbits. It's probably the most difficult place to drive "happy!"

I've chosen country for the peace and "FLOW". I realize not everyone can do that. I'd still rather put up w a pesky rooster than to hear 9mm's and fire/police sirens all the time!

In conclusion, if you pedal bikes, please think how you appear to others. A full stop won't cost you any gas, and might save your life.

Peace to all!

06-15-2011, 11:54 PM	#36 (permalink)
larrybuck Master EcoModder Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: sw Washington (state), a little north of Vancouver Posts: 1,142 Thanks: 295 Thanked 111 Times in 82 Posts	Because I've had driving jobs most of my life, I value having my license VERY SERIOUSLY!!! I'm going to stop for signs/lights. The tiny bit of fuel saved: will it cover a potential ticket, and insurance rate increases?? I get rather annoyed when I see someone who won't STAY at a red light because they don't feel like it! As for the cyclists (bicycle)... I see plenty of radical ones around Portland who ignore all laws thereby INFLAMING auto drivers against them. This problem of aggressive warfare between the two groups has grown immensely in the last few yrs. Many cyclists, because of their blatant rudeness are looked upon with as much hate as any Harley biker could be... Mix a redneck PU guy w a preppy know it all bicycle rider: its not pretty! In areas where stop signs seem to be put up as almost just a simple tradition, instead of thinking fresher, officials should be reminded that the stop not only uses more gas, but causes more pollution as well. Thankfully roundabouts are increasing quite a bit around here; but I'm sure thats not the case everywhere. It's kind of ironic that a total urbanite who maybe doesn't go more than 5 miles a day has so many options...bus/bike/walk/moped/scooter... even the most gas sucking V8 in an old car works as depreciation is gone, they inherently hold together well (60's-early70's) repair cheap, and as long as they are not driven far; won't cost much. Then at the other end; is the country guy w little to no stoplights/signs to worry with, but must travel many miles to get somewhere, so a mpg veh. becomes a high need, but most of the that kind of driving is the most peaceful and mellow. Stuck in the middle(just like the song) is the supposed utopia of life where most of the population is, all clashing light to light, with the new'hoods springing up stopsigns like rabbits. It's probably the most difficult place to drive "happy!" I've chosen country for the peace and "FLOW". I realize not everyone can do that. I'd still rather put up w a pesky rooster than to hear 9mm's and fire/police sirens all the time! In conclusion, if you pedal bikes, please think how you appear to others. A full stop won't cost you any gas, and might save your life. Peace to all!