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UFO · 07-06-2011, 08:52 PM

oldbeaver, you are not interpreting the laws properly.

"You can't win" means you cannot extract more energy out of the system than you put in. Truly, you "cannot win".

"You can't break even" means all energy conversion systems have an intrinsic loss (called entropy), so truly, you "cannot break even".

Forget about "HOH". The conversion efficiencies are easy to calculate, and they add up so badly there is no chance of a mileage improvement. NONE.

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UFO Master EcoModder Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,300 Colorado - '17 Chevrolet Colorado 4x4 LT 90 day: 23.07 mpg (US) Thanks: 315 Thanked 179 Times in 138 Posts	oldbeaver, you are not interpreting the laws properly. "You can't win" means you cannot extract more energy out of the system than you put in. Truly, you "cannot win". "You can't break even" means all energy conversion systems have an intrinsic loss (called entropy), so truly, you "cannot break even". Forget about "HOH". The conversion efficiencies are easy to calculate, and they add up so badly there is no chance of a mileage improvement. NONE. __________________ I'm not coasting, I'm shifting slowly.