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Oh, I didn't see the rest of the thread, if you really wanted to, I'd by a beater for yourself for a 4 banger or a 3 banger for like 500, and start saving some green. If you want to save money, but still have a family car to not be selfish, I'd get a beater for yourself to drive by yourself and when you wanna hang out with the rest of the family, drive the Van!
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