Can't shake the low 20's

[DifferentPointofView]

Suby's... I'm not sure, shouldn't be too bad, for a used one anyway. 20ish grand, can't be anywhere near the Suburu WRX which is around 30 new, so their new wagons (dubbed, sport wagons, which are actually good enough looking that they don't look like total station wagons) should be in the mid-upper 20's. Find maybe a 2004 used one, and check it. Do a KBB on a wagon. Believe it or not but SCC magazine did a review on one of their wagons for a track car on sunday, family hauler on monday thing and it scored the highest and stuff.

You'd probably get much better mileage in more longer drives. You're doing probably a lot more city driving for getting stuff. It's really hard in larger vehicles to see any improvement in city driving, but in highway you can see a large difference. I run low 20's and it's hard to shake it, I could probably do mids and uppers if I didn't have to factor in city with highway combined. You're not doing bad at all, On longer drives my mileage goes up, but stop and go is horrible.

[popimp]

I would say more for financial, but having a vehicle that can get really good FE might encourage others to shoot for higher numbers on their vehicles. Even though I'm doing my best with what I have, I don't think I could convert people with my current MPG numbers. People like to hear about the 40 and up MPG.

[DifferentPointofView]

Oh, I didn't see the rest of the thread, if you really wanted to, I'd by a beater for yourself for a 4 banger or a 3 banger for like 500, and start saving some green. If you want to save money, but still have a family car to not be selfish, I'd get a beater for yourself to drive by yourself and when you wanna hang out with the rest of the family, drive the Van!

[MetroMPG]

Originally Posted by popimp

People like to hear about the 40 and up MPG.

It's all relative. The super high numbers are fun to look at, but the reality is you're doing better than the 4 other drivers with the same vehicle who posted their numbers at fueleconomy.gov. That's what counts.

[popimp]

That's the plan, but right now the wife isn't going for it. She says I can walk 2 work, which is true and we don't need another expense (oil, gas, insurance, ect...) My come back is but I want it!

[popimp]

Originally Posted by MetroMPG

It's all relative. The super high numbers are fun to look at, but the reality is you're doing better than the other 4 drivers with the same vehicle who posted their numbers at fueleconomy.gov. That's what counts.

I just wish I could get together with you and SVO to find see where I'm going wrong and learn some new techniques.

[MetroMPG]

Hey, I'm open to couch surfing in exchange for driving clinics in the southern US for the next couple of months! :P

[DifferentPointofView]

AH, well it's worth it I think, insurance on like a ford festiva or geo metro shouldn't be much, oil won't be that bad and gas would be no prob if your getting 40's and 50's.

IF you really wanted to, I'd go and get a Mountain or Road bike. I'm Thinking about getting a Jeep Mountain bike for 179-300 depending on the funds and you get infinite miles per gallon on that one, only miles per effort!! ^_^

[Lazarus]

Originally Posted by popimp

I would say more for financial, but having a vehicle that can get really good FE might encourage others to shoot for higher numbers on their vehicles. Even though I'm doing my best with what I have, I don't think I could convert people with my current MPG numbers. People like to hear about the 40 and up MPG.

If you want to convert people talk about how many miles you displace from the car and how little gas you use.
I think one thing you need to keep in mind is that impressive numbers are great but your fuel usage is got to be down if you are walking to work. Someone that gets 40 mpg and drives 200 miles a week is burning alot more than someone who drives 50 and gets 20 mpg. Very few can post big numbers and low fuel usage(Metro/SVO).

[popimp]

My best mpg was 29 going from Las Cruces, NM to Luke AFB, AZ. The only real difference was using 86 octane gas instead of 87.