[ConnClark]

Originally Posted by ChazInMT

ConnClark, step back a bit from this a bit.

Some things you probably have not thought of.
1) The turbine design required to get useful energy out of it would be larger than the radiators on most cars, this makes the idea impractical from the getgo.

I never said it was to power the whole electrical system and if you look at the specs of the device I linked to it only puts out 6A @ 85mph. Way less than a typical car needs. View it as an assist. Any electricity it generates is energy not needed to be produced by the alternator.

2) The air going through the engine bay may create more drag than the air going around the outside of the car, but, it isn't a complete waste, some of the energy makes it through. I know this is tough to understand, but it is important, cause you seem have it in your head that the air going into the grill is almost like a reverse thruster, it's not. Maybe it has a Cd of like .8, but it isn't a parachute at 2.0. Main point here, the air is not just "Going to waste"

So are you saying the whole point of a grill block is a waste of time? Or are you saying we should channel more air through a path of high drag? ( just listen to your self).

The theory behind a grill block is that you have more than enough air flowing through the engine compartment to cool the engine in stock configuration. A grill block creates resistance to air flowing into the engine compartment and thus forces more air around the car which has less drag.

3) Any energy created by the apparent motion of the car has to come from somewhere....

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Any way you slice it, it comes up a fail. A grill generator is Less Efficient than the existing means of creating electricity.

Here is where you fail to comprehend what I'm saying. I'm saying a turbine is a more efficient grill block as you get something back.

Would you get something out of it? Absolutely!!! There is no one here that’s gonna say your idea does not work for generating electricity.

Will you get something for nothing,

no

and, therefore have an efficiency gain out of it?

I won't have an efficiency gain from getting something for nothing but I will have an efficiency gain.

Never in a million years!!! Not while P=IE and E=MC².

So your saying nasa is wrong and this won't work when it does?

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