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Old 01-11-2012, 12:34 PM   #44 (permalink)
drees
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Originally Posted by dieselbeetle View Post
I wasn't impressed by the Leaf. In fact, the Leaf sucks.
How 'bout some facts or reasoning to back that up? One could easily say the exact same comment about anything.

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Originally Posted by dieselbeetle View Post
I'm waiting for a hybrid diesel volvo station wagon. When that happens, you'll never see, hear or smell of me again.
Every single internal combustion car around still stinks when cold started. My Prius does it. The new VW TDI that drove by me while jogging the other day did it. The only car that doesn't stink? My LEAF.

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Originally Posted by sendler View Post
What is your average speed? I haven't seen anyone approaching that on the highway.
Average speed is around 30 mph, it's a typical suburban commute around here. Speed limits are mostly 45-55 mph on my trip, but with frequent lights. Getting green lights is key to keeping efficiency up - you get surprised by a yellow light and have to stop quickly and that kills efficiency since you can't use full-regen to stop. I can see total trip efficiency drop by 20% by missing a few wrong lights - the slight downhill ones are the worst!

On the highway overall efficiency drops a bit, usually around 3.4-3.5 mi / kWh driving 60-70 mph (from the wall numbers). The dash readout doesn't account for charging losses, but appears to be remarkably consistent - just multiple by 85% to get from the wall numbers if L2 charging. If L1 charging, you have to use a lower multiplier (80%), charging that slow isn't as efficient.
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Originally Posted by sendler View Post
I can't charge at work so the point is moot for me although I really like the MiEV. If they offered that car with the gas engine in the US I would be all over that when my Insight dies.
Hard to beat the Insight for a ~80 mi trip in terms of efficiency. Would love to see an electric Insight - the LEAF drivetrain in an Insight would make your comment with lots of room to spare even at freeway speeds. The LEAF simply has too much CdA for high speed travel! I bet the LEAF drivetrain in a Prius would do 10% more freeway range.
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