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Originally Posted by drmiller100
You guys are right.
I think I'll take my pics down - no one seems very interested in learning how to build a car which could be powered by diesel or electric.
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Doug, I understand that, as an engineer and a believer in the value of engineering, I am unwelcome in this thread that you consider "yours." That's fine. I don't like being here. I was asked by you to come here when you were looking for feedback, as outlined in your original introduction. I would not be here now if it were not for the fact that someone had a question on the Zing.
When I first had the misfortune (I won't pretend this has been pleasant) of meeting you virtually, you wrote about "tail gunners" in the Zing thread -- something I had not perceived at all. There are people who will offer suggestions, or ask provocative questions, or disagree with a design feature... and all of those are good for me, the car, the business, etc. I can't think of a single post in the Zing thread that I would consider even vaguely rude or inappropriate or undesired. I don't see the world as "out to get me".
Regarding you car, I've said things like "Great progress," "Looks good", etc. as have many others, some of whom you seem to be driving away. Other than in posts specifically responding to your misconceptions about how I design and I build things, I have offered some encouragement in every post. I am a boat builder, so I have refrained from commenting on your fiberglass work. Others like your craftsmanship. I have refrained from comment, out of politeness. I understand that this is not a finished product, and can see beyond the rough edges. I have refrained from calling you any sort of name whatsoever.
You will note that I specifically directed Pete elsewhere for additional info on the Zing, to avoid diluting this thread. To the extent possible I have honored your request to avoid commenting, after you changed to you "no engineers" policy. So your animosity towards me and others seems remarkable.
As I wrote before, you are making great progress. I wish you luck. Your strategy of using as much of an existing car as possible is a good one. Many others have written similar things, and have provided a great deal of encouragement to you, but you seem bent on attacking these people who could be friends. Many people have expressed interest in your pictures, but suit yourself... you are certainly free to remove them from your website.
And how would that help you? It seems self-destructive. You seem genuinely unhappy, but you're doing good stuff in the car project. I hope you will gain the confidence required to promote the car, and ditch the "I have a high IQ" statement from your site. Do great work and people won't give a hoot whether you have double 800's or not. Let your work speak for itself.
In academic settings, I have been introduced to students as a "real engineer," often by people who I think of as "real" engineers, with loads of letters after their names. The difference, I guess, to them, is that I actually build stuff. But I deeply value their theoretical input and their access to million dollar CFD setups, and wind tunnels, combustion labs, and connections to bright people throughout the country. These engineers, who I admire, would probably describe you as a "real engineer" too. Some of these theoretical types, with 30 page resumes, are also just regular car guys, who have built several cars and and airplane or two. They are not all the nerds you imagine.
People are not out to get you. This is not a competition. Your vehicle and mine are not in the same market, and even if they were, there is plenty of room for both (as well as the other 50 or so like them). You are probably closer to selling you first car than Aptera was even after burning through $24 million. Have a little confidence.