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Old 06-30-2012, 04:12 AM   #67 (permalink)
JacobAziza
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Originally Posted by ron View Post
now thats frugal . its also smart, a new installed tankless (bosch or
takagi ) costs between 2500 to 4000 bucks here in cal. the pay back for savings is 15+ years . So no savings at all. they only last 12 yrs and are high maintenance . the good old tank water heater are bullet proof. kinda like the edison lite bulb but thats another story
Good lord! $4000???

I paid $170 for mine on Ebay (new).
I can have a nice hot shower, with as much pressure as my low-flow shower head can handle. Easily too hot
If one wanted one with a higher flow rate, so that multiple people could shower at once, they have ones with 4.23GPM for $335.
It is zero maintenance, unlike a tank heater that needs to be drained regularly, and occasionally needs cathodes replaced.
The only reason I bought it was my old tank heater had a leak develop due to corrosion. It was cheaper to get a tankless than another tank heater!
So the "payback" time was instant.
Then on top of that, my gas bill dropped by roughly half.
AND I can take a shower as long as I want, the water never gets cold.

I think the moral is never shop at Home Depot (or equivalent) or let contractors install appliances that you can easily install yourself
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A few months ago I returned home just as my neighbor pulled into his driveway. It was cold (around freezing) with some rain and sleet, and he yells to me: You rode your bike? In this weather?!?

So the other day we both returned home at the same time again, only now the weather is warm, sunny, with no wind. And I yell to him: You took the car? In this weather?!?
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