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slowmover · 07-11-2012, 04:52 PM

Blaming unions is hilarious, boys. And citing the Heritage Foundation only worsens the impression of low-brow "intelligence". Say what you want about unions they had their place and time. Before them, America was a lousy place to live given the amount of wealth being produced. And after their demise -- public or private -- the same is true again. May as well argue for an aristocracy: pays no taxes of note, is above the law and grabs the wealth of the land. In which no democracy exists. Unions, co-operatives and other bandings of ordinary people ought to be of more interest to you. If you want a Third World country, otherwise, just say so. It's past the point of "a trend".

Rein in banks/corporations (and get them out of politics altogether) and maybe we'd clearly see that finance capitalism and democracy are fundamentally opposed. The former has well-nigh destroyed the (idea of) of the latter. It's more useful (not to mention, true) that every institution of American society -- political, military, religious, educational, financial, etc -- is now deeply corrupt. Relief isn't available. The party is over.

Why you can't buy a high mpg car isn't solved, personally by indulging in such. Western society, hell, . . the planet is faced with problems which aren't going to be solved politically. There isn't a stalemate in Washington, there is profound and complete agreement as to how things will work until a bitter end. The rest is just theater, entertainment, to rabble rouse, to get-out-the-vote.

This country hasn't solved a problem politically since 1970.

Delusions arising from denial about the finite resources of a finite planet mean that your own transporation needs ought to be defined, re-thought and prepared with alternatives to what you have now. The future will not be like the past. The easily gotten gains of the past two hundred years of industrialisation are gone . . forever.

From hereon it will personally, societally -- and in a "planetary" sense -- be damned expensive to just keep what (you "think") you have. May be better to get ahead of that loss (and which may not actually be one).

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07-11-2012, 04:52 PM	#154 (permalink)
slowmover Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 2,442 2004 CTD - '04 DODGE RAM 2500 SLT Team Cummins 90 day: 19.36 mpg (US) Thanks: 1,422 Thanked 737 Times in 557 Posts	Blaming unions is hilarious, boys. And citing the Heritage Foundation only worsens the impression of low-brow "intelligence". Say what you want about unions they had their place and time. Before them, America was a lousy place to live given the amount of wealth being produced. And after their demise -- public or private -- the same is true again. May as well argue for an aristocracy: pays no taxes of note, is above the law and grabs the wealth of the land. In which no democracy exists. Unions, co-operatives and other bandings of ordinary people ought to be of more interest to you. If you want a Third World country, otherwise, just say so. It's past the point of "a trend". Rein in banks/corporations (and get them out of politics altogether) and maybe we'd clearly see that finance capitalism and democracy are fundamentally opposed. The former has well-nigh destroyed the (idea of) of the latter. It's more useful (not to mention, true) that every institution of American society -- political, military, religious, educational, financial, etc -- is now deeply corrupt. Relief isn't available. The party is over. Why you can't buy a high mpg car isn't solved, personally by indulging in such. Western society, hell, . . the planet is faced with problems which aren't going to be solved politically. There isn't a stalemate in Washington, there is profound and complete agreement as to how things will work until a bitter end. The rest is just theater, entertainment, to rabble rouse, to get-out-the-vote. This country hasn't solved a problem politically since 1970. Delusions arising from denial about the finite resources of a finite planet mean that your own transporation needs ought to be defined, re-thought and prepared with alternatives to what you have now. The future will not be like the past. The easily gotten gains of the past two hundred years of industrialisation are gone . . forever. From hereon it will personally, societally -- and in a "planetary" sense -- be damned expensive to just keep what (you "think") you have. May be better to get ahead of that loss (and which may not actually be one). .