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gus · 12-19-2012, 12:40 AM

Thanks Gus,

I really appreciate your honesty and straightforwardness - freely saying what you did and didn't do, what you found and didn't find..... And I've also found OldMechanic to be very matter-of-fact and straightforward, too. Not owning a diesel, I don't know if any of this will ever apply to me personally, but it's still interesting to learn about it from someone who's actually doing it - and who doesn't appear to be a "nut".

I see where getting a good, steady, long-range driving test would be difficult for you, but that's what would be ideal to really get a good mileage comparison - the "A-B-A" testing that MetroMPG describes so well. I can't help but wonder if the extra load the heavier alternator will put on the engine would negate the mileage gains.

But then, you said your primary goal was cleaning up the exhaust, and it sounds like you're seeing encouraging results there. So I sure hope to hear more information about your project whenever you get some.

Thanks,
Bill

Bill, The guy who built this system has the larger unit on his 2011 GMC and likewise claims performance, emission reduction and better fuel economy. In his case it was a little more complex to get the system to properly perform. He assured me though that he meets all warranty questions etc. We must not lose sight of the fact that the fuel savings are really brought about by the more thorough burning of the fuel which normally is fried in the Cat. converter.
This brings me to an interesting thought on costs.......What $ value should we attach to the emission reduction.........I am aware that there is a cost to the distilled water and the filter element in my set up. On the other hand, if by the thorough burning of the Gasoline in the modern engines we prolong the life of the Cat. what $ saving does that represent.
A final thought. I have had a much larger amp alternator installed today and if winter weather stays elsewhere I will attempt another test shortly.
I am still not able to reconcile the question of the load on the alternator related to the performance of the test.......Here is what I can't figure out.....If the power (amps) use relates to engine performance, that in turn should interpret into more fuel being burned !
But to go back to my initial test, the run with HHO drawing appx 30amps more than running on straight diesel burns less fuel......Which in the end is what I reported.
Maybe if you read this often enough you will understand what I am trying to say. (having some problems getting it into words)
Cheers.......Gus

12-19-2012, 12:40 AM	#521 (permalink)
gus EcoModding Lurker Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: canada Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Gus, I really appreciate your honesty and straightforwardness - freely saying what you did and didn't do, what you found and didn't find..... And I've also found OldMechanic to be very matter-of-fact and straightforward, too. Not owning a diesel, I don't know if any of this will ever apply to me personally, but it's still interesting to learn about it from someone who's actually doing it - and who doesn't appear to be a "nut". I see where getting a good, steady, long-range driving test would be difficult for you, but that's what would be ideal to really get a good mileage comparison - the "A-B-A" testing that MetroMPG describes so well. I can't help but wonder if the extra load the heavier alternator will put on the engine would negate the mileage gains. But then, you said your primary goal was cleaning up the exhaust, and it sounds like you're seeing encouraging results there. So I sure hope to hear more information about your project whenever you get some. Thanks, Bill Bill, The guy who built this system has the larger unit on his 2011 GMC and likewise claims performance, emission reduction and better fuel economy. In his case it was a little more complex to get the system to properly perform. He assured me though that he meets all warranty questions etc. We must not lose sight of the fact that the fuel savings are really brought about by the more thorough burning of the fuel which normally is fried in the Cat. converter. This brings me to an interesting thought on costs.......What $ value should we attach to the emission reduction.........I am aware that there is a cost to the distilled water and the filter element in my set up. On the other hand, if by the thorough burning of the Gasoline in the modern engines we prolong the life of the Cat. what $ saving does that represent. A final thought. I have had a much larger amp alternator installed today and if winter weather stays elsewhere I will attempt another test shortly. I am still not able to reconcile the question of the load on the alternator related to the performance of the test.......Here is what I can't figure out.....If the power (amps) use relates to engine performance, that in turn should interpret into more fuel being burned ! But to go back to my initial test, the run with HHO drawing appx 30amps more than running on straight diesel burns less fuel......Which in the end is what I reported. Maybe if you read this often enough you will understand what I am trying to say. (having some problems getting it into words) Cheers.......Gus