I have never supported the "runs only on water" or "triples your mileage" claims, but a path to a positive gain is there. It might be a fraction of the total produced power and it may never provide a marketable solution to fuel economy but it is there.
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Originally Posted by UFO
In one hundred years of internal combustion history, that challenge has been extended to HHO proponents and never met. Good luck with that. And please go ahead and discredit me, and thermodynamics as well, it would be an honor -- that is what the scientific method is all about.
However, if you cannot see how basic energy conversion concepts govern your experiments, you will be at a disadvantage in controlling your experiments and understanding what helps or hurts fuel mileage.
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I understand Thermochemistry and Chemical Thermodynamics. I understand that by manipulating various reaction parameters I can add a small quantity of hydrogen to preempt the branch reactions and start combustion with a fuel mixture that differs from the starting fuel/oxidizer. I do not need to break the laws of thermodynamics.
Challenge given, challenge accepted. Let's do it.
If there are any HHO producers or manufacturers that are confident enough in your systems to have a second party test them, feel free to join.