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Old 12-30-2012, 08:37 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
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Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 52.71 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 70.75 mpg (US)

Appliance car - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage ES (base)
90 day: 52.48 mpg (US)
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What happened to function over form?
Oh, I wouldn't kick it out of bed for eating crackers. It's boring to look at, but I'd certainly drive one if it gets great fuel economy.

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The anti CVT attitude here seems somewhat disappointing
I'm not anti-CVT at all. For the average driver, the more CVT's the merrier!

But I am pro-manual.

In the hands of a motivated & skilled eco-driver, a manual will outperform a CVT (MPG-wise) in general and will be more engaging/entertaining while doing so.

I'd consider owning a CVT if:

1) It permitted switching between neutral and drive at any speed, without any problems (to make best use of coasting opportunities);

2) It permitted engine-off coasting in neutral;

3) Ideally, it also let me optionally choose when to "upshift" (ie. a "manual" mode) because CVT's are not necessarily optimized for economy. (EG. see: http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...rly-21149.html )

And there are a bunch more advantages to manuals not specifically related to economy.
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