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Old 02-25-2013, 02:04 PM   #161 (permalink)
ncdave4life
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Sucre, thank you for your company web site URL, which I couldn't find. I've corrected my post accordingly.

However, your complaints here about Eli and Perry are misplaced. They have not been unfair to you.

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I remember Eli tested them under 100A discharge, that is only 2-4C?
As I recall, the KingKong cell could not be discharged at 100A, and failed completely at 30A. To be reliable in a Honda Insight HEV, it must be able to handle 3x that much current, over and over, for years.

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although the internal construction of our cell need improved, but that doesn't mean our cell support only 2-4C. It is unfair.
He didn't say it only supported 2-4C, he said it "can put out 10Ah, but only at 2-4C," which is actually generous: 4C for a 10Ah cell is 40A for 15 minutes, and the KingKong cells cannot do that.

But even that would be inadequate for Honda HEV use. They must be able to frequently discharge at nearly 100A for short periods of time, without harm to the batteries.

Just last month, on 1/4/2013 you admitted that KingKong batteries were inadequate for HEV use, and on 1/6/2013 you pledged that KingKong would not sell their sticks until they get the problems fixed.

If you now (already!) have a dramatically improved battery cell, which can be reliably charged at 45A and discharged at 100A, and which has an internal resistance of at most 1.3 mΩ per cell (under 8 mΩ per 6-cell battery stick), then please tell us about it, and either offer to give one of your new battery sticks to one or two of the experts here for testing, or else at least provide real test data like Eli's.

Otherwise, you are trying to sell a product which is plainly unsuitable for Honda HEV use, and that is both unwise and unethical.


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