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Originally Posted by ncdave4life
Sucre, thank you for your company web site URL, which I couldn't find. I've corrected my post accordingly.
However, your complaints here about Eli and Perry are misplaced. They have not been unfair to you.
As I recall, the KingKong cell could not be discharged at 100A, and failed completely at 30A. To be reliable in a Honda Insight HEV, it must be able to handle 3x that much current, over and over, for years.
He didn't say it only supported 2-4C, he said it "can put out 10Ah, but only at 2-4C," which is actually generous: 4C for a 10Ah cell is 40A for 15 minutes, and the KingKong cells cannot do that.
But even that would be inadequate for Honda HEV use. They must be able to frequently discharge at nearly 100A for short periods of time, without harm to the batteries.
Just last month, on 1/4/2013 you admitted that KingKong batteries were inadequate for HEV use, and on 1/6/2013 you pledged that KingKong would not sell their sticks until they get the problems fixed.
If you now (already!) have a dramatically improved battery cell, which can be reliably charged at 45A and discharged at 100A, and which has an internal resistance of at most 1.3 mΩ per cell (under 8 mΩ per 6-cell battery stick), then please tell us about it, and either offer to give one of your new battery sticks to one or two of the experts here for testing, or else at least provide real test data like Eli's.
Otherwise, you are trying to sell a product which is plainly unsuitable for Honda HEV use, and that is both unwise and unethical. |
1.You said our cell failed completely at 30A, who told you this? did you have test data for our cell? Till now, only Eli tested our D 10000mah cell, you check the test data on the Insightcentral forum, his point is our cell IR is too high, not suitable for hybrid use.
2.Mike have never tested our cell, he just disassmebled our cell, he said our cell internal instruction is unsuitable for hybrid battery, that is his point.
3.I know exactly the basic requiremnet for hybrid battery use, 100A discharge and 50 charge rate are basic, sometimes the car draw 120A or 150A discharge. and the IR is also crucial, for the stock cell, IR is 2mΩ， lower than 2mΩ is preferably, the lower the better.
4.I admited that our cell is inadequate for hybrid car use, but I didn't said our stick couldnot hold 100A discharge and 50A charge rate, what we gonna improve is the interanl construction to ensure a lower IR as well as the welding, that is the point.
5.New sticks will be ready in the middle of March, probably I will send a new stick to the expert here to test, but I will Never sent it to Eli.