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Old 04-04-2013, 09:43 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
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Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 54.46 mpg (US)

Appliance car Mirage - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage ES (base)
90 day: 57.73 mpg (US)
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All depends on the usage of course.
Agreed. And for most drivers, under most conditions, the hybrid bits are a net benefit.

Also, on the point of driving without the extra torque from electric assist, I think most of those same drivers would find the car both woefully underpowered and over-geared without assist.

It's worth reminding folks of where I'm coming from: even without assist, my Insight has more power/torque than my Firefly/Metro (which I even "de-tuned" from stock by installing an "economy" cam, and then a taller final drive). And they weigh about the same.

So it all feels perfectly acceptable to me!
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